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I think that he has too much time on his hands.... :rolleyes:

The latest query is as follows...

This is another silhouette by Stubbs...this time it’s J Stubbs....but as you see from the label no town or address....just a date of 1809 and Mr Bailey Bookseller....whether your clever gang can find it from there Might be worth a try.
The only Stubbs recorded in the silhouette bible is M Stubbs....but no one has seen a silhouette by him in the past 60/70 years.

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I have found the following in the Cockermouth, Cumbria directory of 1811 relating to T BAILEY, Bookseller, which might be the right chap:

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Moving on from that, I have found a John STUBBS, who was baptised on 20th June 1787, to parents Robert & Ann, also in Cockermouth. He was aged 14 at the time, so born about 1773, which could also fit with being an established artist by 1809.

After that, nothing.

I would welcome your thoughts on my discoveries - am I completely off kilter?

Also, any further information would be welcome. :)
 
There seems to be a place ending in ‘outh’ (Cockermouth?) 24th May 1809. Followed by perhaps Baileys Booksellers.
Was he doing preliminary drawings on that day at Baileys Booksellers in Cockermouth?
 
Archie's Mum said:
There seems to be a place ending in ‘outh’ (Cockermouth?) 24th May 1809. Followed by perhaps Baileys Booksellers.
Was he doing preliminary drawings on that day at Baileys Booksellers in Cockermouth?
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That certainly adds some confirmation of the information that I found and that I am not looking completely in the wrong place! :D Thank you.
 
Also mentioned journals.sas.ac.uk ‘dates of works issued for Friends, is one Thomas Bailey, Cockermouth 1821. He being a printer of Friends works.
In 1852 and a bit late to be the original Thomas Bailey, perhaps his son but not at all unusual is the marriage of Thomas Bailey, Bookseller, Cockermouth to Mary eldest daughter of John Watson of Mosser, by C H Wybergh vicar of Isell.
Cumberland BMD.
Not that this helps find J Stubbs but you seem to be getting close.
 
I nearly posted this yesterday, but thought it wasn't relevant to Ralph Stubbs. It's a bit later on, but could well be the same J. Stubbs upped and moved to Leeds.
Leeds Intelligencer 17th January 1828
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There are references to T. Bailey, Bookseller, Cockermouth in the papers
 
As he now seemed to have moved about a bit, I wonder if this could be his burial:

Burial: 7th September 1843, Rusholme Rd Cemetery, Chorlton-on-Medlock, Lancashire
Age: 71yrs
Abode: Ardwick
Cause of Death: Old Age

(From Lancs OPC)
 
He might have travelled all over the place - the Cockermouth notice mentions that he was planning to stay there for a fortnight.

I haven't seen the 1811 directory, but I see from Pigot's 1828-29 that there was a pub called the Apple Tree in Main Street. The publican then was a John Rome, but there were a few Armstrongs in the town, among them a Dinah who was publican at the Bush pub, also in Main Street; and an Isaac who was an auctioneer in St Helens Street.
 
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