Celestin Edward Dansey

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This should probably go in the France section but I need an expert :eek:

Celestin Edward Dansey - His father was Edward Collins Dansey FACT I have seen Edwards will where he leaves everything to his son Celestin.

I wondered where the name Celestin had arisen from. After googling his name I found this in a book on Google (strange that eh!)

"Celestin Edward Dansey was born to Edwards first wife, a French woman, in France in 1824."

I can not find a birth record for him. or a marriage for his father and mother.

There is this birth in the France, Protestant Church Records, 1612-1906 found on familysearch.

Adélaïde Mélanie Dansey
Baptism 16 Oct 1826 France
Father Edouard Collin Dansey
Mother Mélanie Bonnere

Is Edouard Collin Dansey the French way of saying Edward Collins Dansey ?

If so was Mélanie Bonnere Edwards first wife?

I have also found another baptism with Edward Collins Dansey as the father.

Emma Dansey Dansey
Christening Date 17 May 1835, St Mary, St. Marylebone Road, St. Marylebone, London
Birth Date 20 Dec 1830
Father Edward Collins Dansey
Mother Name Mary Wigzell
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C03524-8
GS Film number 580912, 580913, 580914

So who was Mary Wigzell?

I'm contused. Brick walls are hard on the head :confused:
 
I wonder if Mélanie Bonnere Edwards died in childbirth, thus giving rise to a different mother for Emma, ie Mary Wigzell?
 
Couldn't resist having a quick look at the papers before I pack up for the night - you may know this, but if not.....
Hampshire Advertiser 20th September 1876
On the 5th inst. at St. Saviours-on-the-Cliff, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, by the Rev. C. P. Peters, assisted by the Rev. C. J. Burland, Vicar, Charles Penhallow Peters, of Knighton, Radnorshire, to Fanny Constance, only surviving child of the late Captain Celestin Edward Dansey, Bombay Fusiliers

Ann
 
Jan, Could be. Although I was under the impression that Edward was only married twice. They may have got it wrong and in fact he was married 3 times.
 
Thank you very much Ann. That was the marriage cheat I did on the Isle-of-wight yesterday. But that has put more meat on the bones.
 
Ancestry has the bap entry. There is no occupation entered for Edward Collins Dansey and to me it looks like the couple were not married as other mother's maiden names are not given.
The address given was Paddington Street.
Oh and her name was registered as Emma Dansey (just the one Dansey)
 
Thank you very much MollyMay. So old Edward was sowing his wild oats. Is there any sign of Emma and her mother in the 1841 census I wonder.
 
Chimp said:
Is there any sign of Emma and her mother in the 1841 census I wonder.
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1851 not 1841: Emma D. Wigzell, aged 20, born Paddington, is with her widowed grandmother Mary Wigzell (67), a coffee house keeper, at 18 Little Randolph Street, Camden in 1851. Two of Mary's children are there too: Jane (37, b. Middlesex Marylebone) and Samuel (30, b. Middlesex St Giles) (HO 107/1498, f.67, p.48).

Which led eventually to the 1841 census for 26 Paddington Street, St Marylebone (HO 107/680, book 4, f.10, p.12):

Mary Wigzell, 50, Coffee House, No, Essex [this census enumerator helpfully puts birthplaces for those not born in county!]
Jane do, 25, yes
Saml do, 20, app brush maker, yes
John do, 16, yes
Emma Dansey, 10, yes
plus a cabinet maker and three servants
 
There's an Emma Dansey Geeson, aged 32, born Paddington, with husband William (a coffee house keeper) and children at 4 Alfred Terrace, Holloway Road, Finsbury in 1861 (RG 9/151, f.60, p.1).

FreeBMD has a William Geeson and Emma Donsey Wizzell with matching references in the GRO marriage index (St Giles district, Q2 1853, vol. 1b, p.521)

Two public trees on Ancestry have Emma dying in London, Ontario, in 1878 but I haven't followed this up.
 
Chimp said:
"Celestin Edward Dansey was born to Edwards first wife, a French woman, in France in 1824."

I can not find a birth record for him. or a marriage for his father and mother.
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I found a reference here to a birth registration in Paris for Celestin Edouard Goding Dansey, sometime between 1800 and 1825:

http://www.
genealogie.com/genealogie-dansey/dansey.html

but when you try to find out more it starts wanting euros. :(

So I had a google to see if there are Paris civil registration records online and the answer is yes and no. From what I can make out with my very rusty French, pre-1860 civil registration records for Paris were destroyed by fire in 1871, but have been partly reconstructed. Scanned images of little slips with summaries of BMD registrations in Paris up to 1859 can be seen here:

http://
canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr/archives_etat_civil/index.php

Click on 'accédez aux fichiers alphabétiques' at the bottom right of the page.
Then where it says 'Type d'acte', choose 'acte de naissance' from the drop-down menu and where it says 'Nom de la personne recherchée' type in the surname.
Click 'Rechercher' [Search]
This brings up a list of results showing the range of surnames covered in one batch of images. Click on the eye to view the images.

If you do the above for the surname Dansey, image 47 of 101 (you can slide the little triangle along the line to whizz through faster, rather than having to go one image at a time) is a brief record of the birth of Celestin:

NAISSANCES [Births]
Année [year] 1824
Arrond[isemen]t ancien [Old arrondisement]: 43
Noms [Surnames]: Dansey
Prénoms [Forenames]: Celestin Edouard Goding
Date de la naissance [Date of birth]: 26 avril 1824

Nothing about the parents, though.:(
 
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Bloomin Brilliant Huncamunca (why do you always have such long names :D) I really did give up hope of ever finding a birth. It has to be him. I wonder what the Goding bit is all about.

Thank you again.
 
Huncamunca you have done it. I had a look at the next image in the collection and who should pop up

Adélaïde Mélanie Dansey

The baptism that I found earlier

Adélaïde Mélanie Dansey
Baptism 16 Oct 1826 France
Father Edouard Collin Dansey
Mother Mélanie Bonnere
 
I am missing posts #10, 11 & 13 which must be Hunca Munca's solve of this b/c Chimp keeps saying thank you but I have no clue as to what he is referring? Am I the only one, or are others wondering where her posts are........

Night, tis late......
 
Still can't. Could she have accidentally blocked me? Can't think of any other reason for them being missing. Night......
 
You can NOT be blocked from seeing any posts on Top Dog. There was a minor updateythingamabob last night because of a new security threat that is doing the rounds. It has been on the news. It is all fixed now. You are probably using a version pre the update. Just reboot your computer and all will be back to normal :)
 
Figgs said:
Still can't. Could she have accidentally blocked me? Can't think of any other reason for them being missing. Night......
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I wouldn't block you, Figgs!
{-(^^)-}
I have looked in my 'People you Ignore' and it is definitely empty. Even if I had somehow put you in there by accident, wouldn't that mean I couldn't see your posts, and not the other way round?
 
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