Gwins of Send and Ripley

[MollyMay]

This is what I have so far -

Robert Keene married Elizabeth Gwynn (Gwin Gwyn Guinn) 13/12/1783 Guildford Surrey
They have 8 children in Teddington Middlesex, and I have this family sorted.
I know nothing of Robert before he married Elizabeth. He was buried St Mary Teddington 18/6/1843 - age give as 85, so b1757c

It is Elizabeth Gwin who I would like some help or clarification with.

If I have the right Elizabeth, she was baptised 18/9/1761 at Send & Ripley (S&R), Surrey
Her baptism names her as Betsy and she is the daughter of William Gwin and his wife Hannah
William Gwin married Hannah Harrison at S&R 7/7/1760
Elizabeth is the second child of 8 born to this couple.

I cannot find a baptism (anywhere) for William Gwin (all variations)
When he was buried 5/12/1791 no age is given, but from the m/c he was a barber, but no marital status given.

Some extra info gathered
On 23/12/1767 at S&R a Sarah Gwin married William Bucknall and the witnesses are William Gwinn and Sarah Harrison, so possibly a sister to William.
A Sarah Buckland was baptised S&R 28/2/1768 d/o William and Sarah - I have no other info on this couple

I have also found a marriage of William Guinn to Sarah Styles 8/2/1747 at S&R
There is a baptism for Mary Gwin d/o William 16/2/1755 S&R
There is a burial for William Gwyn junior 23/3/1760 S&R no baptism found.
So did William marry a Sarah Styles before Hannah?
I have not found a burial for Sarah (Styles) Gwin

Searching for Williams parents I came across this marriage at S&R Mary Stanton to Sackville Gwinne 13/5/1722.
Sackville (some transcriptions have him as Jackville) was in the army (S&R is/was military area), and there is plenty of info on him and his family.
Does anyone think he has any relevance to my Gwin family in S&R?
There is also a clandestine marriage for Sackville, in Westminster 29/11/1736, to Sarah Mackleen (MacClene, Maclean etc), not that I have found a death for Mary (Stanton), but being military that could have been anywhere.

I cannot find any other Gwins in the S&R registers, so is the Sackville one is just a coincidence?

 

[Archie's Mum]

How many Sackville Gwynnes can there be? More than you would think….however.
Sackville Frederick Gwinn was born1696 Llanfair Kileddin Monmouthshire. Died 4/1/1787.
Married Mary Elizabeth Stanton 13//5/1722… no more info for Mary.
They had. Son William born 1722. He married Hannah Harrison. Sackville Frederick’s father was Howell Gwynne and mother Mary Gwynne, same surname.
Howell Gwynne and Mary’s children are…Mary 1690, Marmaduke 1691, Anne 1692, Roderick 1695, Sackville Frederick 1696-1787, another Sackville 1697-1766, Luke 1700, Joan 1703. Not sure if the second Sackville is correct but it could help you to sort the Sackville’s out…..this is from a family tree so not sure if all this is so.
Perhaps two Sackvilles. One marriage each! Sackville and Mary Stanton, Sackville and Sarah MacLene (Family Search)

 

[Archie's Mum]

Marmadukes daughter Sarah Gwynne married Charles Wesley founder of Methodism.

 

[MollyMay]

Thank you Sue, I read up some of the Sackville lineage, which is what convinced me his family could not be connected to my line - 2 generations later my family were in the workhouse! The most exotic name in my family was Edmund
S&R being a military area, so many of the marriages there are serving soldiers, it is possible I guess Sackville married Mary, she died and then he married Sarah - odd they chose a clandestine marriage, but as it seems they are nothing to do with me I shall let it rest.
Thank you for looking for me