Hand Writing?

Elma

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Can anyone help me read this writing. It is Will Dolby I am interested in.
RG12 Piece:218 Folio:6 Page:7 Thank you ElizabethWill Dolby.jpg
 
It's a tough one.

Chalkey Down?

Although, Google suggests there is no such place...

Chalsey Down.

Still no such place.
 
Will Dolby /Do (Ditto)/ 7 (age)/ Chalbey (or maybe Chalkey?) Down /not al...
I guess the very last word is the one causing most difficulty in deciphering?

I assume this is from a census for an institution of some sort. If so, then the last column is usually for a disability of some kind, isn't it? So it looks to me as if young Will was initially labelled as 'al..' and that the 'not' was added afterwards. I can't make it mean anything to me in that context, I'm afraid.

Have you tried scrawling through all the entries for that institution to see if the same word crops up again and if then you can figure out what it is?
 
Have now seen the earlier replies about the place name and looked at the larger image too (hadn't realised that was poss.) and agree that the 5th letter is probably an 's'.
 
This one has me stumped, Elizabeth.

I note that it is transcribed on several sites as 'Ireland', one with a correction of 'Chalsey, England'. For the life of me, I can't see that! :headbang:
 
I think the "not al..." note has been added later, possibly to indicate that whoever was collating the forms hadn't a clue where the place was.

I wonder if it might be Cholsey Down(s)? Cholsey village is on the Thames, a couple of miles south of Wallingford - historically in Berkshire, but in post-1974 Oxfordshire. The modern Ordnance Survey map shows Cholsey Downs about 2-3 miles SW of the village, actually nearer to and due west of Moulsford.

It's a landscape feature rather than a village, though there are a few farms nearby.
 
What I haven't found, though, is a suitable birth registration for William Dolby/Dalby. Tried both spellings, 1884 +/- 2 - the nearest, I think, was in Easthampstead district, at the other end of Berkshire.
 
I think Arthur has it too. I found this mention of Cholsey in the Reading Mercury 5th November 1892 in the Berkshire County Council, Highways and Byways report.
Cholsey.—ln this case both the roads applied for lead to a new railway station; the one from Whitecross, on the Wallingford and Reading main road, takes any traffic from Wallingford through the village of Cholsey. It is about one and a half miles in length, and is mostly in good repair. Between the village of Cholsey and the station the road is narrow, but the parish is now engaged in widening it, and making footways. The committee recommend that this road be taken over as a main road as soon as it has been put in proper repair.

There are a few mentions of Cholsey Down, but only with reference to arable land.

And I can't find a suitable birth/baptism either.
 
I have kept quiet trying not to put ideas into your heads! What I want it to be is Chavey Down. My William Henry Dolby was born on the 11th Dec 1883 in Winkfield, Bracknell. William is not with the family in 1891. The family did live at Chavey Down, Bracknell. I am not sure but I think the hospital is
Alexandra Hospital, Holborn ( a hospital for children with hip diseases). William is with the family in 1901 and 1911 but Thats's all I know about him.
 
He was in the Alexandra Hospital for children with Hip disease in London. Which opened in 1866.
When you invert the colours is easier to read.
Opps..sorry Amie... you beat me to it while I was researching the hospital!
 
Thank you everyone. I have a feeling it is my William Henry Dolby but I guess I will not be able to prove it. There are just some families that are difficult and my Dolby family are that. William had a younger brother Frank Henry Dolby born in 1886 in Aldershot. He is with the family at Chavey Down in 1891 and 1901. Strangely he was baptised Francis Edward Dolby. I don't know what the family were doing in Aldershot as as far as I know they only ever lived in Chavey Down. William died in Gallipoli on 20th May 1916 and on the
UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 it states he has left a widow Edith Annie. I haven't worked this out at all.
 
I have kept quiet trying not to put ideas into your heads! What I want it to be is Chavey Down. My William Henry Dolby was born on the 11th Dec 1883 in Winkfield, Bracknell...
That would be the birth that we've found the registration for. Pure coincidence, though, that it's in the same county as Cholsey Down.

Now you've told us this, though, I think there's a pretty good chance that this is your boy. With poor (doctor's/other medical?) handwriting, it would be easy to mistake a "v" for "ls" - and I have to admit, the 3rd letter is more like an "a" than an "o".

Maybe, then, the later note is because someone looked in their gazetteer to find the county and couldn't find anywhere with a name beginning Chals... "Ch-" they were happy with, but beyond that there were too many possibilities to be able to say for certain. All they knew was that it wasn't "-als-".
 
You can find out more about William's hospital stays at the Historic Hospital Admission Records Project at
Code:
http://www.hharp.org/

A basic search led to the dates of 3 admissions in 1888 - one at the Alexandra, and two others, and if you register (free, it appears) you can get fuller details.
 
Wow Arthur that is some fantastic find. Thank you. I have always wanted to find more information on hospital admissions and have always been disappointed. I did register and there were the three admissions, unfortunately no detailed case notes but lots of other information. His address was recorded as 2 Prospect Cottages, Bracknell. I am not familiar with Prospect Cottages but the area is the right area. No date of birth but his age indicates he would have been born in December 1883, which my William was. His condition was recorded as Morbus coxae not sure exactly what that is yet. I am very happy with these records, thank you again.:D
 
Morbus coxae:
Code:
http://www.hharp.org/medical-terms/Morbus%20coxae
Extremely helpful.... NOT! Other Google results suggest it's connected to tuberculosis.
 
Maybe, then, the later note is because someone looked in their gazetteer to find the county and couldn't find anywhere with a name beginning Chals... "Ch-" they were happy with, but beyond that there were too many possibilities to be able to say for certain. All they knew was that it wasn't "-als-".

That looks the most likely interpretation to me. My mind just wasn't working on those lines at all. Good thinking that man!
 
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