Help with the father & son names please

Thanks for that interpretation Ann, I was trying to pluck up courage to check the remaining parts of the entry today, you've saved me from that, I will be adding the full text to my family group sheets, that entry is far different to a lot in those times where all you get are just the bare bone entries.

I had already picked out some of the spellings that differ from today's version, the uppon and widdower, that word widdower has often bothered me, whether it was just a misspelling or correct, so finally I looked it up in my Concise Oxford Dictionary and of course widower is the modern version. A lot of PRs have widdower so I suppose that was the correct version back then.

It does amaze me how couples met each other back then when there's a fair distance between where each lives, according to the AA Route Planner West Hanningfield and Messing are 20.9 miles apart, these days a 30 minute car ride away so how long it would take by Horse or Horse and cart is beyond my guessing.

Going into Ancesty's London PRs shortly to see if I can find any children from the Thomas Hinton and Mary Rayner marriage at Southwark, Surrey 2 Nov 1634. Also see if that marriage is there with an image of the PR entry, I'm hoping that these searches will at least decide whether that Thomas and Mary Hinton could be Thomas and Mary of Messing, or not, somehow I think not but I'm trying to keep an open mind and searching keeps me off the streets and not up to mischief. Ladies please keep your hands over your ears for the next hour. :)
 
Thomas Hinton and his wife Mary Rayner who married in 1634 at Southwark are no longer considered a possibility of being the Thomas and Mary Hinton who baptised two children at Messing 1651 & 1654.

Thomas Hinton and Mary Rayner baptised four children 1644 to 1655 at Southwark.
 
Just for the record.

Another possible Hinton marriage is Thomas Vinton married Mary Be?? 16 Jun 1653 at Willingale Doe, Essex, so that's out, for a start it needed to be no later than 1651 because the Thomas an Mary Hinton that I'm looking for had a daughter Mary baptised 17 Aug 1651.

A Thomas and Mary Vinton had a daughter, Mary, baptised 22 Jun 1653 at Margaret Roding, Essex.

Thomas and Mary Vinton had four children baptised 1657 to 1664 at Willingale Doe, Mary, Margaret, Thomas and Elyzabeth.

The reason I think that family is a Hinton family is because a Blackmore Vinton family according to the EPRI, in fact PR images showed them to be a Hinton family. It seems that the flamboyant H is something the EPRI transcribers couldn't decipher, mind you it could be actually Vinton.

All the above info is from Ancestry's Essex Parish Register Index (EPRI).
 
I'm going to have to give up on going back beyond Thomas Hinton and his marriage to Martha Burlinge.

I just cannot find the marriage of Thomas Hinton to a Mary prior to him marrying Martha in 1655 at West Hanningfield, Essex.

I have searched Ancestry's Essex Parish Register Index using all sorts of name variations and the * wild card, several times, no luck whatsoever. FreeReg and Family Search have given the same results, I have also tried the initial searches on FMP and The Genealogist, again, zero!

So that's it folks, barring a miracle, not tearing my hair out can't afford to lose any. :eek: :) Another marriage in that hidden mystery village in Essex no doubt.
 
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Just for the record and Robots :), I have also failed dismally to find Martha Burlinge's birth or baptism, even tried The Nonconformist BMD Registers site. All I found was four Burling(e) burials in Essex 1632 to 1670, three at Epping and one at Clavering, none of which had first names attached but the burial period eliminates them anyway for my needs.

Clavering for anyone, like me, who doesn't know where it is in Essex, it's up in the north west about a couple of miles from the Essex and Hertfordshire border and also a couple of miles from that lovely Essex village of Arkesden.
 
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