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  1. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Ludlow 18-24 Miles from Knighton

    Knighton - Presteign - Ludlow.JPG
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Shrewsbury to Knighton is about 35 miles.
     
  3. Chimp

    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    The long white house in this picture is Whitehall
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    https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/WAW007711
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    I am being particularly dense this morning, but is it the house that fronts along the street, with the tree behind, or the one next to it across the side street?

    Both look old, and I am just being nosy:D
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    It's the one that fronts along the street. The other one is the old Swan Hotel.

    There has been a planning application put in to knock it down. I would like to discover it's history before anything is done. I now live in a house where the barn is behind the Swan (The one that looks, to me anyway, like a money box)
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    That money box must take big pennies
     
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    It has always been known as Whitehall except for a brief time in 1861 when it was known as Cobrowrg Cottage or something like that. This was because Mary Ann Breeze was living there. She was the widow of Edward Breeze, who had been High Sheriff of Radnorshire. They had a place in Kensington that also had the same name. I was hoping that the death cert for him would give Whitehall as his place of death, but hope springs..... dried up :sceptical:
     
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    :D
     
  9. Daft Bat

    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Have a word in the local Library and see if they can lay their hands on a copy of "Houses and History in the March of Wales: Radnorshire 1400-1800". Chapter 6 refers to the White House, Broad Street, Knighton and quotes the source as being George Nash, "Presteigne. The White House....Broad Street." Archaeology in Wales 40 (2000) 147-9.

    The latter book might be best to order as well if you can.

    Note: I found the Houses etc book online in Google Books, but chapter 6 was not viewable. :(
     
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    The Coflein page (see my post #10) expresses concern at possible demolition, so would it be worth contacting them, or Richard Suggett, who wrote the piece, to find out what could be done to prevent it? It doesn't appear to be a listed building, but if it was, it would be a lot harder for anyone to demolish it.

    I wonder - given that it seems to have had a few changes of use over the years, might there be any old planning applications which would have background information on it? Or another tack - might there be any old deeds, manor records etc in the county record office?
     
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    Have found this book on Google Pay for £6.99 I will buy it later on today.
     
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    I tried searching Powys Archives catalogue to see if anything useful came up. I'm not sure it did, but there are two references that mention Whitehall, both in the records of Green and Nixson solicitors: R/D/GNX/BOX15 and R/D/GNX/BOX20 However, unless they contain references to earlier deeds etc, neither appears to be more than about 100 years old.
     
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    Sadly as with all searches, White Hall, Broad street and knighton don't actually appear together when you look at the original. This White Hall was in Presteigne

    But, on the positive side, I've found one that I can discount :)
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    I have tried literally everything to find something helpful in a paper - but with no luck whatsoever :( I have found notices for Edward’s death in various papers (and mentioning the fact that he was a jolly nice chap) but in every case, he was just ‘of Knighton’. I even found a notice for the death of his housekeeper, but even then they didn’t think to actually name the house she was keeping :rolleyes:
     
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    Bummer. :(
     
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