John Parkinson 1834

[Chimp]

John Parkinson b.1834, Wheelwright, married Mary Morris b.1835 in St George's Church, Everton, Lancashire, on 6th September 1857.
They are both of Upper Beau Street, Everton.

John says his father is Thomas Parkinson his occupation is Miller.

I have found a baptism record for a John Parkinson in St. Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire on 8 Aug 1836 for a John Parkinson with parents Thomas and Mary Ann Parkinson, this Thomas is a Miller and they are living at Tenterden Street, Liverpool.


This John has siblings

1851 census
Clegg Street, Everton, West Derby, Lancashire
HO107
Piece number 2189
Folio 280
Page 56

Thomas Parkinson, Head, Married, 40, 1811, Miller journeyman, Liverpool, Lancashire
Mary Parkinson, Wife, Married, 38, 1813, Liverpool, Lancashire
John Parkinson, Son, 16, 1835, Stable boy, Liverpool, Lancashire
Eliza Parkinson, Daughter, 14, 1837, Servant at home, Liverpool, Lancashire
Thomas Parkinson, Son, 12, 1839, Scholar, Liverpool, Lancashire
Sarah Parkinson, Daughter, 4, 1847, Scholar, Liverpool, Lancashire
Mary Parkinson, Daughter, 2, 1849, Liverpool, Lancashire

Clegg Street, Everton to Upper Beau Street is about a 10th of a mile.

Tenterden Street, Liverpool to Clegg Street, Everton is about 1.6 miles with todays layout, back then it would be about quarter of a mile.


First off, I don't even know if I have the correct parents for John or am just grabbing at straws with finding one that fits.

If and it's a big IF he is the correct one I can't seem to find the mother's maiden name. 2 of the children were born in the late 1840's but I can't sort or find them using the GRO.

Any suggestions

 

[Archie's Mum]

How about Thomas Parkinson, Miller and Mary Ann Gray, 1st June 1834 St Peter Liverpool.
Witness William Parry and Eliza Parkinson.

 

[Chimp]

Oooh I like that, where did you find it please?

 

[Archie's Mum]

There is a sister Eliza baptised the same day as John….Lancashire OPC

 

[Chimp]

Found the marriage on FMP, well he did have a sister Eliza and it would make sense that they are both baptised on the same day.

 

[Archie's Mum]

Found the marriage on FMP, well he did have a sister Eliza and it would make sense that they are both baptised on the same day.

Witness at the marriage was Eliza as well.

 

[MollyMay]

There appears to be 2 more daughters both on the GRO (been working on them)
Martha b1851 - bap 21/7/1851 on FMP Thomas a Miller, gro gives mmn Gray
Jane 1854 March qtr - gro mmn Gray (not looked for a bap yet).
Both of these girls reg. in West Derby (as 1851 census shows)

 

[MollyMay]

All on FMP

Thomas bap 7/8/1839 of Tenterden St. - Father labourer at St Matins in the Fields

Mary Ann bap 9/7/1850 of Clegg St at St. Peter Liverpool

Can't seem to find a bap for Sarah b1847 (yet)

 

[Chimp]

Martha was baptised while living in Clegg Street as per the 1851 census, By the time Jane came along they were living in Bootle.

 

[Chimp]

Thank you ladies, this has all helped immensely, I was getting nowhere fast.

 

[MollyMay]

Sarah remains a mystery - there is a birth reg. Sept qtr 1846 WIGAN 21 - 839 mmn Gray
I do not see any other births in the Wigan reg district for Parkinson mmn Gray (or Grey)
I cannot find a bap for Sarah in Wigan, nor Liverpool.

 

[Chimp]

Found another one.

PARKINSON, WILLIAM
MMN - GRAY
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 365

He is on the 1881 census with tham.

1, Birchfield Road, Walton on the Hill, West Derby, Lancashire
RG11
Piece number 3687
Folio 83
Page 33

 

[MollyMay]

In case you haven't got it - the family in 1841 in parish of Prescot, living in Brethertons House, Rainhill, HO107 piece 517, book 2, folio 9, page 11.
It looks like Thomas' father is with them - yet another Thomas

 

[Archie's Mum]

Then there is William, father Thomas a Miller and Mary Ann, 9/11/1857 St Peter Liverpool abode Everton.
Jane father Thomas a Miller mother Mary Ann 16/1/1854 St Peter abode Bootle.

 

[Chimp]

Mary Ann died at 1, Birchfield Road, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire - 16 Sept 1881 - 66 years

Thomas died at 38, Becket Street, Liverpool, Lancashire - 21 Jun 1890 - 78 years

 

[MollyMay]

In case you don't have these
1861 census, Mill cottage, Mill Lane, Birkdale, Ormskirk RG09/2759/75/23
1871 - this is almost unreadable FMP has no transcription but Anc has Thomas (no surname) Chirkdale Street, Kirkdale, RG10/3825/57/11

What Anc offers.

 

[Daft Bat]

Surname PARKINSON, Thomas is a Miller

Sarah is a Provision Shop Helper

 

[Chimp]

Sarah remains a mystery - there is a birth reg. Sept qtr 1846 WIGAN 21 - 839 mmn Gray
I do not see any other births in the Wigan reg district for Parkinson mmn Gray (or Grey)
I cannot find a bap for Sarah in Wigan, nor Liverpool.

You found her, I dug deep in my pocket.
She was the daughter of Thomas and Mary Parkinson nee Gray. Her father is a miller. They are at Roby Mill, Upholland, near Wigan. She was born 31 Jul 1846.

 

[MollyMay]

You found her, I dug deep in my pocket.

Ouch that hurt
Glad I don't owe you the cash

 

[Chimp]

In case you haven't got it - the family in 1841 in parish of Prescot, living in Brethertons House, Rainhill, HO107 piece 517, book 2, folio 9, page 11.
It looks like Thomas' father is with them - yet another Thomas

Thomas died on 21 Jun 1890 it says he was 78, this would give a birth of c1812

I have found a baptism but no way of proving it.

Thomas Parkinson
Baptism date 14 Mar 1813
Residence - Liverpool, Lancashire
Father - Thomas Parkinson
Baptism year 1813
Mother - Mary

There is this marriage

Marriage date 16 Jun 1811, Our Lady and St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire
By licence or banns - Banns
Denomination - Church Of England
Thomas Parkinson, Miller, of Liverpool
Mary Carr, Spinster, of Liverpool
Witness 1 Edward Coventry
Witness 2 John Elston