Joseph Barton. Which one and who did he marry? Australia 1800s

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This person is from several online family trees and is a DNA Match of mine who died last year so I can show her name:

Joan Eileen Barton, KW's DNA Match; B:7 Sep 1930 Victoria, Australia; D:17 Aug 2024 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, married a Mr Brown and died as Joan Brown.​

Her GGGF Joseph Barton, born about 1830, is a bit hazy- I can't tell if he was Joseph Henry Barton or Joseph Thomas, nor whether he was born in Victoria or back in the UK where all the Bartons seem to have originated. The Victoria BDM online doesn't help and the A-site has lots of Joseph Bartons with no middle name, none of them clearly identified as the Joseph who married Esther Dooly/Dooley, nicknamed Hessy in 1855 in Geelong, Victoria.

The family doesn't seem to be the one that produced an Australian Prime Minister (Sir Edmund Barton), nor a family of Bartons who were successful miners and business-people in Western Australia.

Can anyone shed some light on these people, please?
 
In 1855 a Joseph Barton married Hessy (Ester) Dooley in Victoria. Children were Thomas 1856, Caroline 1864, Catherine 1863, William 1859 and Hannah 1857. In 1870 at age 39 (birth year would be c1831) he dies, next of kin on the registration is Ester Dooley.
Now, in Tasmania is a Joseph Barton age 15 (age out a bit) transported in 1842 for stealing a watch in Wolverhampton. He was sentenced to 7 years and was sent to Point Puer, a boys prison near Port Arthur. The reason I mentioned this Joseph is that on his record he has a brother William and one Thomas. His father is also William. Just a thought and maybe try Staffordshire for his origins.
 
Hesse Dooley was an Irish immigrant who arrived on the Marchioness of Salisbury in Feb 1855. She was from Kings County Ireland and was 18 years of age. She was sent to work for Arthur Wenyes (?). I'm guessing she was also lined up to be chosen as a wife for the local men as there was a shortage of women in the colony. Poor Irish girls were brought out here to fill the gap.
 
Archie's Mum said:
In 1855 a Joseph Barton married Hessy (Ester) Dooley in Victoria. Children were Thomas 1856, Caroline 1864, Catherine 1863, William 1859 and Hannah 1857. In 1870 at age 39 (birth year would be c1831) he dies, next of kin on the registration is Ester Dooley.
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There are several articles on Trove, particularly in the South Bourke Standard between August & October 1870, referencing a concert that was organised to raise funds for him and his family due to their distressed circumstances. A letter to the newspapers on 14 October refers to their seven children, so there must be two more somewhere whose names may provide clues.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/66843394?searchTerm="joseph barton"

There may be earlier articles but I haven't had chance to look and need to dash off somewhere for a bit.
 
Thanks @Archie's Mum for getting a perspective on the TWO Joseph Bartons for me- I suspected the five registered/baptised children might be the children of the Joseph Barton transported to Melbourne. And thank you @Andromeda for looking a bit further ahead into Trove newspapers- that would have been a next stop for me after separating the families of the two Josephs. I'll have a good look now for the children and further lives of Joseph and Esther's children. I guess the amount of organisation that has been imposed on the early Aussie records is little worse than the pre-1837 British records! Imagine trying to coordinate the movement of people with the same names but different identities in days before central registration, phones and computers! Hoping for a nice line of children's birth/baptism records with parents' full names is just too ambitious! Wolverhampton origins probably mean that Joseph is likely to be my relative.
 
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