Mary Ann ASHTON, formerly [name] ?

MollyMay said:
So far I have had no luck in finding any of them post 1901 census

I did come across a bap of Mary Ann Wilkinson in Kinver

31/5/1846 at Kinver St Peter
Mary Ann d/o Benjamin (labourer) and Mary
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The following could get a lead to go back another generation if this is your Mary Ann.
Found on genes2.com
Benjamin Wilkinson c1810 Cainham Shropshire. Census 1851 at South Side Street Kinver. 1871 at High Street Kinver
Spouse Mary Ann. Children, Harriet, Caroline, Benjamin, Henry and then Mary Ann.
 
Philb-c said:
How did you find that one Ma ?
Occupation, address and Mary Ann all tie-in nicely
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It is on Anc - Wills and Probate Calendar - he left £115 14/-

Still had no joy in finding any of the missing ones in 1911 - I even tried Canada in case James [jun] had emigrated and the family followed once James [sen] died.

Any clues in the witnesses at Gertrudes marriage?
 
MollyMay said:
It is on Anc - Wills and Probate Calendar - he left £115 14/-
Still had no joy in finding any of the missing ones in 1911 - I even tried Canada in case James [jun] had emigrated and the family followed once James [sen] died.
Any clues in the witnesses at Gertrudes marriage?
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I think that yesterday my brain (such as it is) was scrambled - fresh eyes today.
Witnesses at Gertrude's marriage (nice idea) turned up nothing for the Ashtons but it did throw up a nice link to another relative that I hadn't noticed before :).
 
MollyMay said:
That's a great find Wendy - it means the 1906 (not the 1904) death reg is his.
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Philb-c said:
I think that yesterday my brain (such as it is) was scrambled - fresh eyes today.
Witnesses at Gertrude's marriage (nice idea) turned up nothing for the Ashtons but it did throw up a nice link to another relative that I hadn't noticed before :).
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I took Molly May's two suggestions to the Calendar of la lahs for Probate, -sorry- biggy pain thing going. 1906 won out.
 
As I have drawn a blank on what happened to Mary Ann and some of her children after 1901, I will add a little more to what AM found in post#24

Benjamin Wilkinson married Mary Page at Caynham Shropshire 13/5/1830
 
Looks like Benjamin Wilkinson born/baptised 16/10/1809 Caynham to William and Mary.
Interestingly another enquiry online wanting to find info for Benjamin. He finds that there may be a connection to William and John 'iron mad' Wilkinson sons of Isaac Wilkinson.
Google will tell you all about John 'iron mad' Wilkinson, industrialist and inventor of cast iron.
 
Hi MollyMay, I'm thinking you have access to records not on Ancestry ?
I have now made a spreadsheet (how sad is that) to get my head around this family and it actually helped.
Married in 1868 but James is missing from 1871 and 1881 census.
The strange one is 1881 census Mary Ann (Snr) being shown as "widow" (the address is correct) (see #12).
Mary Ann (Jnr) missing from 1891 and Polly only shown in 1891 so Polly = Mary Ann is looking stronger (see #12).
Are Elizabeth and Edith one in the same ? (see #12).
Only one entry (1871) for Elizabeth - perhaps she died (see #13).
No mention of James (Jnr) after 1891.
No mention of Ernest after 1901.
No mention of Ada after 1901.
 
Yes I have FMP and Anc. both UK only.

I think a spread sheet is very clever (I could not do that - I use a sheet of paper and a pen:D) but your post shows just about all we have found
 
I think I may have found James in 1871
RG10/4889/6/3
Stockton Street, Middlesborough, Stockton, Durham
Lodging with Henry and Caroline Russon

James Ashton b1846 upload_2017-8-9_14-24-59.png
occ iron rooler (sic)

On the 1901 census he gives his pob as upload_2017-8-9_14-26-49.png
 
I have been amusing myself trying to find out where Brittel Lane is and came across this mention in the Journals of the House of Commons volume 42 (1803)
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Philb-c said:
You really are on form today MollyMay
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It is pouring with rain and I should be in the garden, so just filling in time:D

There is a birth reg for James Ashton Mar qtr 1843 Stourbridge 18-465

1851 census HO107/1498/11/14 - St Pancras, Marylebone London
Anthony Ashton b1813 Kingswinford - Engine Driver
Roseanna b1814 Shropshire
Hannah b1836 Dudley
Anthony b1838
Thomas b1840
James b1844
Ann b1846
all born Kingswinford
Esther b1849 Islington

1861 census RG09/1985/86/6 [Anc as the place as Kinfare] - I read it as Kinver:)
Anthony, Rose Hannah, Anthony, Thomas, James, Ann, Esther and Rosina (age 9)

James age 18 (b1843 - Kingswinford) - occ iron roller:)
 
Anthony Ashton married Rosannah Garbett 21/7/1834 at St Thomas Dudley

There is a bap for Anthony Ashton 30/7/1815 Brierley Hill s/o Thomas and Ann Ashton

There is a bap for Rosannah Garbett 19/8/1810 in Dawley Magna Shropshire
d/o Thomas and Ann - it is the only one I can find, she does say b Shropshire 1851 and Dudley in 1861

Anthony and Rosannah in 1841 HO107 p996 bk7 f41 p5 in Kingswinford
 
MollyMay said:
Anthony Ashton married Rosannah Garbett 21/7/1834 at St Thomas Dudley
There is a bap for Anthony Ashton 30/7/1815 Brierley Hill s/o Thomas and Ann Ashton
There is a bap for Rosannah Garbett 19/8/1810 in Dawley Magna Shropshire
d/o Thomas and Ann - it is the only one I can find, she does say b Shropshire 1851 and Dudley in 1861
Anthony and Rosannah in 1841 HO107 p996 bk7 f41 p5 in Kingswinford
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Hang on, where did Thomas and Anthony come from ? LOL
 
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