My maternal grandmothers history

Joby

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Hi,

Have been trying everything possible to try and find out about my grandmother who was born 1934, adopted 1936. I simply don't know how to find out what her birth name was, who her mother was between 1934 and 1936 when she was adopted and had a new name
 

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Have you considered that the adopting parents may also have been family members of the birth Mother/ Parents?
Have a look here, there may be clues for you to go ahead.
Code:
https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/adoptio
 
Have you considered that the adopting parents may also have been family members of the birth Mother/ Parents?
Have a look here, there may be clues for you to go ahead.
Code:
https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/adoptio

hi, yes, that is something we have contemplated and believe is highly likely. My grandmothers adoptive mother was a Dora Mercy Collett prior to becoming Palmer and we think my grandmother may have been from that side but how true I sadly do not know. I appreciate your time and help
 
Have you had your DNA done, you could get some results from that,with possible cousins 2nd cousins etc found or maybe even closer.


Hi, no not as yet although it is something that I have been thinking about as I share your thoughts and it would be possibly the best way forward given all the uncertainties. My mother has found a lady who is my maternal grandmothers neice/adopted family side and they intend to do DNA tests soon
 
That's good. I did mine with Ancestry because there is more chance that some matches to you will also have a tree on there and so you are able to get more tit bits that you can work with. Good Luck and don't forget DNA does not lie..
 
That's good. I did mine with Ancestry because there is more chance that some matches to you will also have a tree on there and so you are able to get more tit bits that you can work with. Good Luck and don't forget DNA does not lie..


Hi,
My wife is on Ancestry and done some of the tree but it's trying to find out info of who my grandmother's biological parents were/are but the DNA would be the best way forward as we think.
 
I wrote a long reply to this the other day, sorry - I think I forgot to post.

DNA may be your only way forward, if at all. My grandma was adopted (pre 1927 so no records before then) but hers was a complicated situation, unmarried parents who split and went their separate ways and simply left the children. At least their births were registered. There was possibly one other brother that 'may' have been related (no birth registration) but as he didn't have children there are no descendants and impossible to prove through DNA route. I am still trying to find out the exact circumstances surrounding my grandma's adoption. My aunt was also adopted, father unknown.

I do have several other incidences of adoption in the family, and these were nearly all unmarried mothers. Look closely at the birth dates of cousins and siblings within the family. Do they tally? Was one child really that premature a birth? My grandmother's sister was brought up by their uncle and his wife, as their own... however, while she and her uncle's daughter were born consecutive years, their 'mother' could not have given birth to them both naturally. My great grandmother from another line had an illegitimate child who was brought up as her brother by her parents and baptised as their own - there was an instance of this in my husband's family as well. Also, his great grandmother died in childbirth from a haemorrhage, which left me wondering if the baby had survived at all - in fact she had been taken under the wing of her paternal aunt and her husband, given their name and brought up in a different part of the country, but... her birth month fitted in. Look at neighbours too. ('39 register).

I've been researching my grandmother's early life for many years. People tended to keep very quiet about such things and my grandma took a lot of secrets to her grave.
 
I cant see any other way apart from DNA really. Go for a company that has a big database. Fingers crossed that you work something out. Don't leave it too long, as hopefully there may still be people around who heard of a possible adoption.


Sadly I don't think that anyone will still be alive now that could remember the adoption as my grandmother would be 88 now and the only potential person that would have been able to sadly has Dementia so DNA really is the only thing that could help.
 
I wrote a long reply to this the other day, sorry - I think I forgot to post.

DNA may be your only way forward, if at all. My grandma was adopted (pre 1927 so no records before then) but hers was a complicated situation, unmarried parents who split and went their separate ways and simply left the children. At least their births were registered. There was possibly one other brother that 'may' have been related (no birth registration) but as he didn't have children there are no descendants and impossible to prove through DNA route. I am still trying to find out the exact circumstances surrounding my grandma's adoption. My aunt was also adopted, father unknown.

I do have several other incidences of adoption in the family, and these were nearly all unmarried mothers. Look closely at the birth dates of cousins and siblings within the family. Do they tally? Was one child really that premature a birth? My grandmother's sister was brought up by their uncle and his wife, as their own... however, while she and her uncle's daughter were born consecutive years, their 'mother' could not have given birth to them both naturally. My great grandmother from another line had an illegitimate child who was brought up as her brother by her parents and baptised as their own - there was an instance of this in my husband's family as well. Also, his great grandmother died in childbirth from a haemorrhage, which left me wondering if the baby had survived at all - in fact she had been taken under the wing of her paternal aunt and her husband, given their name and brought up in a different part of the country, but... her birth month fitted in. Look at neighbours too. ('39 register).

I've been researching my grandmother's early life for many years. People tended to keep very quiet about such things and my grandma took a lot of secrets to her grave.


Although frustrating, it's very fascinating. Before we do the DNA we have came to the point where we believe that my grandmother was most likely to be a relative of her adoptive mother but hitting brickwalls of late
 
Agree about the DNA but if your grandmother still alive, she could apply for her original birth certificate from before she was adopted.
Government website has more info https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records
Good luck

She is no longer alive I'm afraid but can imagine if she was, she would be amazed with the modern search methods and be glued to the tablet I'm using trying to find out where she came from bless her.
 
You mentioned this birth registration in your other thread about your Grandmother
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Did you obtain a copy of it, to see if this Freda Smith's birth date was the same as your Grandmother's?
 
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