Sarah Moore/Beer - born ~1849 Kingsbridge Devon died 1913 Sydney, NSW Australia

The whole family plus baby son Henry aged 1 migrated to South Australia on the ‘Mary Green’ which left Southampton 20 Feb 1853 and arrived Adelaide 19 June 1853.

Julia Mary Moore married Henry Bees in SA on 2 August 1854.
 
Benjamin's grave can be found on Find A Grave
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South Australian Register - Tue 1 Mar 1892 - Page 3
Family Notices
MOORE.— On the 21st February, at her son's residence, Magill-road, Norwood, Jane, wife of the late Benjamin Moore, late of Fullarton, aged 76?
 
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Finding this South Australia post brings me to South Australian immigration records found yesterday. That of a Sarah Beer age 19 and her brother Henry Beer arriving on the Sir John Lawrence in 1862. She is 19, a domestic servant but both state born Wiltshire. I have checked all BDM’s in South Aus and haven’t found anything more of her. So my guess is that she moved from SA before marriage or death.
 
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Hi,

I would appreciate some help with another slippery/confusing person in my family tree. She has been posted about elsewhere in other forums, I hope that is ok.

- Sarah Ann Beer married Simeon Jennings in Braidwood, NSW in 1874 (NSW BDM ref 1983/1874).
- Sarah Ann And Simeon had children in Echuca, Victoria, and Braidwood and Wagga Wagga in NSW.
- I suspect that Sarah Ann Beer and Simeon Jennings may have (informally) separated by the early 1900s.
- Sarah Ann Jennings (nee Beer/Moore) died in 1913 in Newtown, Sydney NSW (Ref 3269/1913, parents John and Mary Susan). Her death certificate confusingly gives her parents as John Moore and Mary Susan Moore, gardener of Kingsbridge, Devon’.
- I haven’t been able to find a Devon birth for Sarah Ann Moore with parents John and Mary Susan Moore born in Kingsbridge, Devon between 1845 and 1855.
- There is a Sarah Ann Moore born 24 Jan 1849, Kingsbridge Devon (UK Civil BDM Vol 9, p425). This Sarah Ann Moore was born at Kingsbridge Albion House, Churchstow to single woman Mary Moore, who registered her birth (making her mark).
- The 1851 UK census has a Sarah Ann Moore, aged 2 as a ‘lodger’ at ‘Sutton Hamlet’, South Molton, Devon in the household of George Pereaton (aged 52, born South Molton, Devon, ag lab), his wife Harriet Pereaton (aged 45, born Stockenham, Devon) and their children Louisa Pereaton (aged 18, born South Molton) and Hannah Pereaton (aged 7, ditto ).
- I can’t definitely place this Sarah Ann Moore (b1849 Kingsbridge/South Molton) after the 1851 census, nor her mother Mary Moore.
- In terms of the John Moore (gardener) and Mary Susan Moore who are listed as her parents on her death certificate,
- the 1881 census has a John Moore, gardener born ~1807 Brixham Devon living at South Molton Devon, husband of Sarah Mooore b~1811 South Huish and living with granddaughter Elizabeth Jane Moore, aged 15 born East Allington, dressmaker.
- This family I think are in South Molton in 1851, with John Moore as an ag laband their son James Moore b1843 South Molton.
- in 1861 John Moore, b1808 Brigham Devon, ag lab and his wife Sarah Moore b1808 South Huish living in South Molton, living with ‘father-in-law’ William Diamond (aged 76, widower, born Devon, no profession).
- in 1871 John Moore b1808 is a tailor living South Molton with wife Sarah Moore and father-in-law William ‘Dymond’ aged 84, born Bovey Devon, ag lab

But I’m not 100% this is the right ‘John Moore’ and given Sarah Ann Moore b1849 appears to have been illegitimate, the people listed as parents on her death certificate may be her grandparents or other relatives, or just made up?!

No sign of a Sarah Ann Moore marrying someone called Beer and becoming a widow before she ends up in NSW marrying Simeon Jennings in 1874. To confuse things further, I have more than 40+ DNA matches to descendants of Phillipa Beer (daughter of William Beer and Elizabeth Cook) b1815 Devonport, Devon m. John Rowe Moyle (1808-1889) died 1891 Alpine, Utah!

Edited to add - I would appreciate help with:
- tracing Sarah Ann Moore born 1849 Kingsbridge to single mother Mary Moore forward in time, to confirm or eliminate her as ‘my’ Sarah Ann Moore/Beer/Jennings,
- tracing single mother Mary Moore forward in time.
- clarifying relationships (if any) between the Pereaton family and Sarah Ann Moore b.1849
- clarifying if the John Moore b1808 Brigham m. Sarah Diamond/~Dymond is any relation to Mary Moore who had Sarah Ann Moore in 1849 at the Kingsbridge Albion House Churchstow.
- What the Beer relationship may be given DNA connections
- Sarah Ann Moore/Beer/Jennings’ travel to NSW and if she came with any relations.
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Late to this but it does seem likely to me that from her death certificate Sarah Ann's mother is the Mary Susan Moore baptised Thurlestone 1831, parents John Moore and Sarah. I would guess that grandfather John has been put down as the father. He is a gardener on various censuses as you know. I think you probably have the correct 1849 birth certificate.

The Beer name is a mystery. Why change from Moore to Beer? Perhaps her natural father was a Beer? There are a few possible candidates looking at 1851 censuses in the area. Though so far none seem to link with your Phillipa Beer.
If Sarah only married a Beer then she would be less likely to have any DNA link to Phillipa's descendants.
If the Beer name was discounted as coincidence you could possibly link with Phillipa's husband and not Phillipa.

Sorry I am no help and have not mentioned anything you do not already know! But it has been exercising my brain.....
 
Thank you for the Mary Susan Moore baptism reference as a strong contender for Sarah Ann Moore/Beer’s mother.

I just found Mary Susan Moore (b1831) coming to NSW, Australia in 1879. There is a Mary Roarke (sic) listed as an assisted immigrant on the ‘Ninevah’ ship which arrived in Sydney NSW on 9 July 1879. She is described as a housekeeper, aged 48, born Devon, father John Moore of Devon, religion CoE, could read and write, person she was travelling to in the colony was her daughter Mrs Jennings of Wagga!
 
In 1860 in Plymouth is the marriage of Edward O’Roarke to Mary Beer. Edward is in the Royal Artilley age 25. Mary a spinster age 27. His father is Daniel and hers is John Beer a labourer..Married at St Andrew’s Plymouth.
 
Archie's Mum said:
In 1860 in Plymouth is the marriage of Edward O’Roarke to Mary Beer. Edward is in the Royal Artilley age 25. Mary a spinster age 27. His father is Daniel and hers is John Beer a labourer..Married at St Andrew’s Plymouth.
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That is an intriguing find! I too can’t easily find Mary O’Roarke who travelled on the Ninevah in 1879 after she landed in Australia. I’ll see what can be found about Edward O’Roarke and Mary Beer - these people don’t make finding info about them easy, that’s for sure!
 
I’ve just found some more info about Mary O’Roarke (nee Beer/Moore) in her NSW immigration deposit journal.

It confirms she is definitely the right woman, as her sponsor was Simeon Jennings (this is her son-in-law, husband of Sarah Ann Beer/Moore). Says her her age was 44, occupation domestic servant and at the time the deposit was made (14 Jan 1879), her address was care of Mrs Roberts, 39 Stillman St, Plymouth, Devon England.
 
Edward O’Roarke’s military discharge papers and record of service with the Royal Artilery are on Findmypast.
- He was born in ‘Killcrown, Ballymal’ County Galway in 1835 and enlisted in the 3rd Brigade, Royal Artillery (service number 6113) on 28 Nov 1859 at Westminster, London.
- He was transferred to Plymouth in 1860 (where he married Mary Beer) and then Woolwich in March 1861.
- The 3rd Royal Artillery shipped to Malta in August 1861.
- He was stationed in Malta until being shipped back to England on 28 October 1873. - His medical discharge form says he also served for 4 years in India with ‘1st Company’ but I can’t find any more info on this.
- He was discharged due to being permanently unfit for service on 12 Feb 1879, due to chronic bronchitis, intended place of residence after discharge was Galway.
- as a relief from many of my badly behaved and intemperate ancestors, he was described as having ‘good conduct, regular habits and being temperate’. Unfortunately, I’m very unlikely to be biologically related to him!

So if this is the husband of Mary Susan Moore b1831, now calling herself Mary Beer, would she have gone to Malta (and perhaps India) with him?
 
Yes I think it is possible that Mary went to Malta or India with her husband.

There is a marriage in Plymouth in 1854 of a Mary Moore to either a Samuel Beer or William Kent which could be worth checking, (even though Mary described herself as a spinster on her marriage to Edward O'Roarke).
 
I have found Edward in Woolwich in the artillery barracks in the 1861 census. Indexed as Edwards Rourke but Edward O'Rourke on the image. Married bombardier born Ireland 1836.
 
There is a possibility for Sarah in Plymouth in 1861. Sarah Bare born South Milton 1847, servant to James Chambers , baker.

Mary proving very elusive.
 
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