lise banas
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i am looking for birth records on robert fitzgerald, 1820,- 1892, who was his father and who was the mother? hope someone can help - banas
where can i find info on robert fitzgerld, 1820 - 1891 boherbrack, husband of johanna herlihy -1825 - 1866?
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Archie's Mum
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Is this the same Robert Fitzgerald/Johanna Herlihy whose son Thomas immigrated to Australia in 1884? According to other enquiries, here and elsewhere, Thomas was born in 1858 in Boherbrack, Lispole, Dingle Peninsular, County Kerry.
His death has his father, Robert a farmer so I’m guessing as in most cases people didn’t move about back then but also Irish records are notoriously hard to find. There would have been no official registration and RC baptisms are impossible to find as well.
Found an enquiry about this family on ‘Just Answer’ a Google search of Garrett Fitzgerald may find it. It states that Roberts father may have been Garrett Fitzgerald and was born about 1790. Robert had sons Garrett born 1853 and James born 1855, both married and died in Dingle. One came to Australia and at least one went to America. Will keep digging.
His death has his father, Robert a farmer so I’m guessing as in most cases people didn’t move about back then but also Irish records are notoriously hard to find. There would have been no official registration and RC baptisms are impossible to find as well.
Found an enquiry about this family on ‘Just Answer’ a Google search of Garrett Fitzgerald may find it. It states that Roberts father may have been Garrett Fitzgerald and was born about 1790. Robert had sons Garrett born 1853 and James born 1855, both married and died in Dingle. One came to Australia and at least one went to America. Will keep digging.
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lise banas
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hello yes that is the right robert fitzgerald , just want to be able to send my son inlaw and daughter, as the are going to ireland in april 2025, do you know the resting place? maybe that might help, do you know if mary fitzgerald went to the usa? found some of the familt in massachsets usa but mary not sure of, there are sites in ireland that start off free untill you go there, what a shame but it is the same here so just keep looking. big question, does the family go back to the knights or any of the castles as that would be something else to see, history and all , i will keep looking thank you for your help , yours banas
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Archie's Mum
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Sorry Lise but that’s all I have been able to find. Father Garret is only really a guess as Garret seems to be a family name. The name Garret is also known as Gerald. However the name Maurice appears as well in a later generation and there is baptism on Family Search for a Robert Fitzgerald in 1825 in Dingle father Mauriti and mother Mary G.
Robert Fitzgerald and Johanna Herlihy had seven sons and one daughter, Mary. All were born in Boherbrack. I have not been able to trace anything of Robert or Johanna, prior to the births of their children. The boys went the following ways: John 1851-1914 went to the USA. Garrett 1853-1891 stayed to run the farm. He died young and his wife and son continued at the farm in Boherbrack. James 1855 - 1927 worked on his own farm in Kerry. Thomas 1857-1930 moved to Australia. Robert 1859-1922 moved to the USA. Daniel 1861-1925 moved to the USA. Maurice 1863-1875 died at the age of 12 years. Mary 1866-1934 moved to the USA and married John Ruddy, a Policeman.
I have no definitive evidence of when Thomas arrived in Australia, but The Western Monarch which arrived in Queensland in 1884, is one of several possibilities. There do not seem to be any applicable arrivals in Victoria with matching names and dates, yet Thomas married Johanna Lennen in Victoria in 1884 and lived there ever after. Family lore says that Thomas came to Australia with the offer of a job in the Railways. He worked for The Victorian Railways, but there is no evidence of an offer for immigration.
I have a Death Certificate for Johanna Fitzgerald (Herlihy) in Dingle, dated 1866, only 8 weeks after the Birth of her daughter Mary, in Annascaul on August 8. Mary was Baptised in Dingle on 16th August. This is significant in that Johanna does not appear in any records after that time. I though that Johanna going to Annascaul for the birth of Mary, may have been due to her being from Annascaul, and having relatives there to assist her. However, the consensus seems to be that Johanna was from Aghacarrible (evidence?)
My brick walls are ..... Birth of Robert Fitzgerald. Birth of Johanna Herlihy. Burial places for both. The Marriage of Robert and Johanna.
Elizabeth Fleming (nee Fitzgerald). Australia.
I have no definitive evidence of when Thomas arrived in Australia, but The Western Monarch which arrived in Queensland in 1884, is one of several possibilities. There do not seem to be any applicable arrivals in Victoria with matching names and dates, yet Thomas married Johanna Lennen in Victoria in 1884 and lived there ever after. Family lore says that Thomas came to Australia with the offer of a job in the Railways. He worked for The Victorian Railways, but there is no evidence of an offer for immigration.
I have a Death Certificate for Johanna Fitzgerald (Herlihy) in Dingle, dated 1866, only 8 weeks after the Birth of her daughter Mary, in Annascaul on August 8. Mary was Baptised in Dingle on 16th August. This is significant in that Johanna does not appear in any records after that time. I though that Johanna going to Annascaul for the birth of Mary, may have been due to her being from Annascaul, and having relatives there to assist her. However, the consensus seems to be that Johanna was from Aghacarrible (evidence?)
My brick walls are ..... Birth of Robert Fitzgerald. Birth of Johanna Herlihy. Burial places for both. The Marriage of Robert and Johanna.
Elizabeth Fleming (nee Fitzgerald). Australia.
lise banas
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thank you for your help. so i did find a copy of the marriage record for robert fitzgerald - says june 19 1853 - boherbrack, -- garot robert fitzgerald - johana herlihy, wittness john herlihy, , found with help of others, garrett passing 1891, looking closely says his father is living with him? did find a family plot. - Kinard Graveyard. kerry, riary 223 - fitzgerald, -- 231 - herlihy, so i think it must be right , shame you do not know who is there . did find a maurice fitzgerald 1863 - 1952 ?? wife margaret, maybe, i did not think ireland would be harder to look for then poland but you never know, till you start looking, i did find when looking maybe roberts father was robert fitzgerald , if record is right - robert fitzgerald, - 8 dec, 1820, Connopoly, father - robert fitzgerald, - mother mary lyne, sponsor- james mahony. - sponsor - honora moriarty. parish - castlemaine, i wil keep looking but must get it together as they leave in 3 weeks, such a lovely country is ireland, once again thank you for your help, as i move forward, yours lise
Hi Lis, The "marriage" Record that you have found would seem to be the Baptism Record for Garret Fitzgerald. He was Baptised on June 19, 1853. His parents are Robert Fitzgerald and Johanna Herlihy. Perhaps you have misread this as the partners to a marriage, rather than the parents of the Baptised baby. John Herlihy is the Sponsor (Godparent). The entry in the Church Register is rather confusing as there is no full stop, comma or any break between the name of the baby and then the father. There is no 2nd Sponsor either, just an "&" sign after John Herlihy's name.
Garret was the 2nd son. John was born in July, 1851. He did not inherit/work on the family farm as he moved to Massachusetts in 1873.
You may also notice that spelling is very inconsistent, especially for names. See Garot, Johana and Hiarlihy. With strong accents (they spoke Irish) and being illiterate, it was often guesswork.
Elizabt
Garret was the 2nd son. John was born in July, 1851. He did not inherit/work on the family farm as he moved to Massachusetts in 1873.
You may also notice that spelling is very inconsistent, especially for names. See Garot, Johana and Hiarlihy. With strong accents (they spoke Irish) and being illiterate, it was often guesswork.
Elizabt
Hello, how are you? My name is Aileen Fitzgerald, from Boherbrack Lispole Co Kerry. I met Elizabeth when she visited Ireland . My brother still runs the farm at home in Boherbrack, small dairy farm but does ok.
My dad - Timmy Bob Fitzgerald
My grandfather- Garrett Bob Fitzgerald
My great grandfather - Tom Bob Fitzgerald
My great great grandfather- Garrett Fitzgerald
My great great great grandfather- Robert (or Bob) Fitzgerald
Reach out if you like
there was a kevin fitzgerald in west australia dept of agriculture in late 1969.s