When and Where Did Thomas Angrove Marry?

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Bonzo Dog

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According to Boyd's Marriage Indexes, Thomas Angrave married Elizabeth Leak in 1664. There are 8 baptism records for children of Thomas Angrave 1665-1683, with Elizabeth named as the mother in some, at East Leake.

According to the Phillimore Marriage Transcripts for the parish, no marriages were performed there (or at neighbouring West Leake) for at least 2 years either side of 1664.
 
Not sure if this helps at all but from the Society of Genealogists transcription of Boyd's Marriage Index (on FMP)
The place is given as Nottingham Archdeaconry Marriage Licences - so if you could find the marriage licence........
 
MollyMay said:
The place is given as Nottingham Archdeaconry Marriage Licences - so if you could find the marriage licence........
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Of course what immediately come to mind (as if!!) are Blagg & Wadsworth's 2 volumes of Abstracts of Nottinghamshire Marriage Licences, British Record Society,1930 & 1935. Then what you need is someone to toddle down to the Nottinghamshire Local Studies Library sometime next week and have a look at them.

Oh well, as you've twisted my arm, I'll try and pop in on Tuesday or Wednesday:). I'm not sure what the coverage is but you might be lucky.
 
Sandiep said:
25 Jun 1664. Thomas Angrave, of East Leake, yeom., bac., & Elizabeth Leake, of Wymeswold, co. Leic., spr.; at East Leake or Thorpe-in-Glebis.
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Well found Sandie.

I see from an 1832 Directory of Nottinghamshire that an alternative name for Thorpe-in-Glebis is Thorpe-in-the-Clods:). The place no longer exists and the directory entry is quite amusing>http://tinyurl.com/jfrpt5r .

I'll pop down to the library anyway and see if they have a microfiche of the parish register.
 
Nottinghamshire: - Abstracts of Marriage Licenses. 1: Archdeaconry Court, 1577-1700 2. Peculiar of Southwell, 1588-1754
this might help you find it
 
Oh this has got rather complicated. Nottinghamshire Archives does not have any parish registers for Thorpe-in-Glebe, neither does Leicestershire Record Office. Probably the best bet is to look at the registers for Wymeswold and Wysall and work outwards from there. I have checked a modern transcript for marriages in Bunny (to which Thorpe was attached for some time) and there is no relevant entry there.
 
This is nice not everything is concreted over :)

A footpath leads right round the site where the church once stood. In the 1920s, a group of people from Nottingham came each year and sang hymns there. Who they were or why they came is unknown.

All that now remains of the church is a grass-covered mound on the south side of the Chapel Close and to the north west of Church Site Farm. The site is preserved as part of the site of the Deserted Medieval Village of Thorpe in the Glebe. It is grassed over.

In the 1920s a very old stone-built cottage stood beside the farmhouse. A weather vane on one of the buildings was supposed to have come from the church tower.
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Given that there were still at least some baptisms in East Leake between 1661 and 1668 I find it hard to believe that there would have been no marriages in the parish between 1661 and 1668 as the Phillimore marriage transcripts says. Not that I'm doubting Phillimore but it seems to point to these marriage entries having gone missing in some way. I'll have a look at the register and see what it looks like.
 
According to GENUKI:
Church Records

  • The last recorded event at the church was a marriage performed in 1712.
  • The church was in the No. 2 deanery of Bingham.
  • Your best bet may be to start searching Wysall's church records or other nearby parishes.
 
Sandiep said:
25 Jun 1664. Thomas Angrave, of East Leake, yeom., bac., & Elizabeth Leake, of Wymeswold, co. Leic., spr.; at East Leake or Thorpe-in-Glebis.
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Sandie, {-(^^)-}

Flook said:
Well found Sandie.

I see from an 1832 Directory of Nottinghamshire that an alternative name for Thorpe-in-Glebis is Thorpe-in-the-Clods:).
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Flook, :D:D {-(^^)-}

Just love the 2nd name, that's going in my records. ;)

MollyMay said:
The place is given as Nottingham Archdeaconry Marriage Licences - so if you could find the marriage licence........
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Molly, {-(^^)-}

You reminded me that the abstracts have been published on 2 CD data disks and I already have the 2nd volume. The 1st has just been ordered, and it might also have another 2 brick wall demolishers.
 
Sandiep said:
25 Jun 1664. Thomas Angrave, of East Leake, yeom., bac., & Elizabeth Leake, of Wymeswold, co. Leic., spr.; at East Leake or Thorpe-in-Glebis.
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Well I've been down the library and I can confirm that they have no parish registers for Thorpe-in-Glebis although I came across this intriguing reference in the Thoroton Society Transactions (1924, page 110)>

""In 1676 William Leeke yeoman made the official return that there were only three inhabitants of the age to take the Sacrament [and there were no papists or other absentees]". It sounds like there may have been no parish registers because there wasn't a viable congregation and the parish probably had an absentee rector anyway. I see the vicar of Wymeswold performed a marriage at "Thorp Chapel" in 1705> http://www.hoap.co.uk/who/ (Wymeswold seems to have several Leake/Leeke marriage entries).

Sandiep's transcription of the entry in the Abstracts of of Nottinghamshire Marriage Licences Vol.1 is of course quite accurate and I looked at the East Leake parish register for any marriage entries between February 1661 and December 1668 (the gap in Phillimore) and I couldn't see any entries or any reason why they shouldn't be there if there were any. There is certainly no marriage between Thomas and Elizabeth in 1664 as far as I could see.

I did, though, come across this entry in 1668>
"Thomas Angrave the son of Thomas** Angrave and Elizabeth Angrave of East Leake was baptised the twelfth day of February".
** I'm 90% sure it says Thomas.

I won't spoil your enjoyment of checking the CD when you get it but 1642 appears to be relevant and do make sure you look at the entry for Thomas Coy in 1700-01.
 
Flook said:
I won't spoil your enjoyment of checking the CD when you get it but 1642 appears to be relevant and do make sure you look at the entry for Thomas Coy in 1700-01.
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Thank you for all your trouble Flook. 1642? That's when King Charles I raised his standard at Nottingham and started a civil war, but I suspect it's something different. Looking forward to finding out.

According to records on FS Thomas and Elizabeth appear to have had 8 children, of whom Thomas 1668 is their 2nd eldest.

A group of lovely people at Wymeswold have posted transcripts of their parish records as free to download Microsoft Word docs from which it appears that Elizabeth is the youngest of the 6 children of, wait for it, "Mr William Leake (plus some spelling variations), Gentleman :), and his wife Katherine. The William Leeke you refer to is possibly Elizabeth's eldest brother, who was born in 1630.

Boyd's Lists have a marriage 1627 in Leicestershire between William Leak and Katherine Street.

Any new findings are more of a triple bonus for me as 4 weeks tomorrow will see me meeting up with 2 second cousins (our g g grandparents are 2 brothers and a sister). One is flying in from Massachusetts to meet up with the other, who lives in Northampton, and they will spend 10 days together, after which it will be my turn to regale them with what little remains of the town's heritage. Will be nice to demonstrate just what a group of super-sleuths we have on TD, and to invite them for the umpteenth time to come and join the greatest group of people going.
 
Bonzo Dog said:
Any new findings are more of a triple bonus for me as 4 weeks tomorrow will see me meeting up with 2 second cousins (our g g grandparents are 2 brothers and a sister). One is flying in from Massachusetts to meet up with the other, who lives in Northampton, and they will spend 10 days together, after which it will be my turn to regale them with what little remains of the town's heritage. Will be nice to demonstrate just what a group of super-sleuths we have on TD, and to invite them for the umpteenth time to come and join the greatest group of people going.
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Well on the Wymeswold Marriage file I'm sure you've seen Lady Katherine Leeke married Thomas Okeover from your neck of the woods. A bit of blue blood would surely impress your cousins from the other side of the pond no end if you can make that connection!!:)
 
What an understatement!! :D No Katherine Leeke (maiden name) so far, but she is a MUST for a bit of searching.

By sheer coincidence it seems that one Minister at East Leake was the grandson of a 6G uncle who was a Minor Canon, Sacrist and Librarian at Durham Cathedral. Sadly that was long after my lot from there had fallen off their perches. No kudos there. :(
 
I expect you've seen this but just in case...(Dated 1690)
"Marriage settlement between William Leeke of Wymeswold, gent., William Bainbrigge of Lockington, esq., Henry Bainbridge of Alvaston, esq., and Katherine Brainbrigge sister of William Bainbrigge, by which in consideration of a marriage between William Leeke and Katherine Bainbrigge and £2000...[and lots more]."

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/7c63bff3-747b-45ea-8d4b-98f24b2dd98d
 
Thank you Flook, two more bookmarks added to the collection. Looks about par for the course; my lot ended up on the sidelines again. I'm descended from the Canon's brother, who never progressed beyond humble country Parson.

Mind you, if I can establish any family connections they'll look good alongside all the ag labs etc. :D
 
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