Great stuff from everyone, as ever. Thank you. That settles it then. Edward & Agnes did travel widely and it's safe to assume, probably, that Louise was born in Breslau, Prussia and Harriett was born in Paris, France. Ancestry was prompting me to look at Russian births but I don't subscribe at the "Worldwide" level so that was that, also being a dabbler, I'd allowed my subscription to FMP to lapse. It seemed a bit lavish to have both. My barber's bloodline goes through his oldest daughter Louise. She went on to marry Walter Westbrook in Islington S Quarter 1877. This seems to have been a purely civil ceremony as I cannot find a certificate. It appears that her second forename was Carpenter. Louise Carpenter Crichton. This seems odd. MMN is Wardrop. I am toying with the idea that it was from Edward's father, John Edward Barnes Crichton. He was a carpenter. I don't know how I missed the marriage certificate on Ancestry. Ah well. Edward gives his profession as "Artist" on the marriage certificate which is fairly vague. I am going to take it at face value and conclude that he was a painter. If he'd been a photographer then why not say "Photographer"? The technique was in it's infancy and I don't think even the word "photography" would have been known in 1852 when he married. Wikipedia says the collodion process didn't really kick off until 1851 - "In the March 1851 issue of The Chemist, Frederick Scott Archer published his wet plate collodion process. It became the most widely used photographic medium until the gelatin dry plate, introduced in the 1870s, eventually replaced it." It's a shame there seems to be no record of Louise's birth, I'm sure the Prussians would have registered it. The history of the state was tumultuous and according to Wikipedia it was finally abolished by the Allies in 1947. Maybe a lot of records went up in smoke. Louise would have been born in 1854, which is in the middle of the Crimean war. What were they living on in the 1860/70s? Pubwiki has him running the Prince George from 1874 citing the Post Office Directory. Maybe he was a minor portrait painter who was impressed by the new high-tec collodion process and dabbled in photographic portraits. If so, there are no records of his work in either field that I can find, apart from the "Harlequin", if that isn't simply a typo and "Edward" should have been "Thomas".