Just can't get this word.......

[Mealymoo]

Did brother Samuel have a daughter Catherine? Niece?
I know it looks nothing like it but it does have an 'i'.

If Samuel did have a dau Catherine, how about........

Name: Catherine Grove
Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1749
Parish: St James, Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Parent(s): Samuel Grove, Mary Grove

 

[Chimp]

But Mr Cleverclogs what's the rest of the word please?

No idea

 

[Sis]

No idea

I Knew it!

 

[Genie1]

Yes they are very similar Heather, the name is Mary. Here's the comparison, Mary is the first one and why I think it is not an M and possibly an N. Can anyone else see that the M in Mary has that extra squiggle (for want of a better word).

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Is it twin?

 

[Archie's Mum]

"Oh yes, that word is ....." or not

'niece'

 

[Philippa]

Yes they are very similar Heather, the name is Mary. Here's the comparison, Mary is the first one and why I think it is not an M and possibly an N. Can anyone else see that the M in Mary has that extra squiggle (for want of a better word).

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I know it couldn't possibly be, but the second word looks like "swine" to me,

 

[Sis]

I know it couldn't possibly be, but the second word looks like "swine" to me,

 

[Sis]

Is it twin?

Thanks Genie1, but at this stage I'm rather inclined to think it starts with an M or N.

 

[Chimp]

Yvonne, my relation in Oz, says it's niece too

 

[Philb-c]

Run this around the block and see if the wheels fall off ?

"fourty" (incorrect spelling) pounds could be "twenty" pounds ?

The more I look, the more I think it's "twenty" !

 

[Steve Bumstead]

It's certainly Niece in old Chancery hand

 

[mugwortismy cat]

Defo niece

 

[AnnB]

Another vote for Niece here.....but isn't it odd that he hasn't given her surname? As in all the PCC wills I've seen, the other people mentioned have been given their surnames, even when he names his wife, he gives her surname. But supposing he has two nieces called Catherine? He doesn't say she is Samuel's daughter. Probably just an oversight, but these wills are usually so precise.

 

[Bay Horse]

I keep coming back to this. I agree, I felt there was something 'incomplete', and Ann is right about the lack of surname.

 

[Genie1]

The first letter looks the same as first letter in mourning, and his wife's name (is she Mary?) My guess it starts with 'M' not much help, sorry.

I agree that it looks the same as the first letter in mourning but I can't think what the word will be.

 

[Daft Bat]

If Samuel did have a dau Catherine, how about........

Name: Catherine Grove
Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1749
Parish: St James, Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Parent(s): Samuel Grove, Mary Grove

Another vote for Niece here.....but isn't it odd that he hasn't given her surname? He doesn't say she is Samuel's daughter. Probably just an oversight, but these wills are usually so precise.

As Catherine immediately follows the bequest to Samuel, if she was his daughter it could be that no surname would be considered as being needed. Women, especially minors, would not necessarily be considered important enough.

Just a thought....

 

[arthurk]

If you still need it, another vote for Niece, but spelled Neice.

 

[Archie's Mum]

The 'ayes' have it I think!
Do you have your nose still in that will?

 

[Sis]

Do you have your nose still in that will?

No AM, just had stuff had to do first.

The 'ayes' have it I think!

I think so to AM, can't see what else it could possibly be.

 

[Sis]

Thank you everyone for your help with this. Niece I will go with.
@MollyMay in post #21 has found an interesting baptism, thank you. So I will try and find the rest of the family to confirm or not that this family is anything to do with my Groves.