Mary Ann ASHTON, formerly [name] ?

[Philb-c]

Mary Ann ASHTON, formerly [name] ?
Any ideas, bearing in mind "formerly" does not necessarily mean "maiden name" ?
Later census (for ASHTON) show she was born 1847 in Kinver, Staffordshire.

 

[MollyMay]

Mc ??? on - were there any children registered so you could look at the GRO index for help?

 

[Philb-c]

I was thinking Mc[something] possibly ending "ison"
Don't seem to be able to find a marriage for Mary Ann to James ASHTON so can't check it that way.
The pic is from her daughter's birth cert (Gertrude Ashton, 7 Feb 1882, Warrington).
No baptisms found for other children Elizabeth (1869, Kinver), Mary Ann (1870, Kinver), Polly (1871, Kinver), James (1873, Kinver) so no joy there either.

 

[Archie's Mum]

Mary Ann Ashton age 0 on the 1871 census was baptised to a James Ashton and Mary Anne in Kinver. Marriage to James Ashton and Mary Ann Wilkinson at Kidderminster March 1868. So I believe the name to be Wilkinson

 

[MollyMay]

Well done AM - the GRO index confirms Gertrude mmn Wilkinson

 

[Archie's Mum]

Just came back to say I found all that on good old family search. Mary Ann the baby was born 2 May 1870 and christened on 3 July 1870

 

[MollyMay]

I could not find birth reg's for Elizabeth, Polly or Mary Ann
but James* (Mar qtr 1873 Sheffield 9c 524) Ernest* (June qtr 1875 Sheffield 9c 368) and Ada (Mar qtr 1882 Warrington 8c 195) all show mmn as Wilkinson

* 1891 census give pob as Sheffield

 

[MollyMay]

Ah ha - this looks like Mary Ann June qtr 1870 Wolverhampton 6b 487 mmn Wilkinson

 

[MollyMay]

Whoops Ada was 1884 (no 1882 as per post#7) district volume and page numbers are correct - sorry

 

[Philb-c]

Mmmm, I have come upon easier lines to trace so I'm grateful for all you have found, especially "Wilkinson" (I was convinced it started with an "M").
The whole family seems a bit illusive with a distinct lack of flow (not enjoying this one, roll-on G&T time).

 

[Philb-c]

Just came back to say I found all that on good old family search. Mary Ann the baby was born 2 May 1870 and christened on 3 July 1870

Born 21st May ?

 

[MollyMay]

Very odd family, Mary Ann alone with the children in 1871 and 1881 (as head, wife and widow).
I do wonder if Polly in 1891 is Mary Ann's pet name

There is a bap in Kinver 22/12/1868 for an Edith Ashton d/o James and Mary Anne (born 4/8/1868) of Foster St. and James is a forgeman - the same occ as on Mary Anne's bap in 1870
The is a note saying "recieved 3/7/1870" - the same day as Mary Anne's bap

There is a birth reg for Edith Ashton Sept qtr 1868 Wolverhampton 6b 453
mmn Wilkinson - so is this Elizabeth from the 1871 census?

 

[MollyMay]

There is a death reg. for Edith Ashton March qtr 1872 Sheffield 9c 347 age 3

 

[Philb-c]

Mary Ann as a widow in 1871 & 1881 has had me confused for quite some time as I have James on the marriage cert of Gertrude in 1903 and it doesn't say that James is "deceased". I even started searching criminal records at one point in case he was "away" for a while.
I can't find a death for Mary Ann or James either.
The whole family all looks very disjointed and illogical.

It's one of those that I have left (for longer than I care to remember) and come back to - James & Mary Ann are my illusive maternal great-grandparents.

 

[Philb-c]

James ASHTON 1843-?
Mary Ann WILKINSON 1847-?

Children:
Elizabeth 1869-?
Mary Ann 1870-1951 (married Edgar PEARCE)
Polly 1871-?
James 1873-?
Ernest 1876-?
Gertrude 1882-1945 (married Richard W WRIGHT) .... my grandparents
Ada 1884-?

 

[MollyMay]

There is a death reg for James Ashton -
Warrington Sept qtr 1904 8c 161 age 61
Warrington Dec qtr 1906 8c 161 age 63

both fit with age 58 on 1901 census

 

[Philb-c]

In comparison with Smith, Jones, Davis etc this should be reasonably straightforward but with dates and places flitting from one to another, obvious gaps and no definite path, I can see now why I previously set it aside.

It doesn't help when Kidderminster is sometimes listed as Staffordshire and sometimes its shown to be in Worcestershire !!!

 

[MollyMay]

So far I have had no luck in finding any of them post 1901 census

I did come across a bap of Mary Ann Wilkinson in Kinver

31/5/1846 at Kinver St Peter
Mary Ann d/o Benjamin (labourer) and Mary

 

[Archie's Mum]

Born 21st May ?

Yes, that's right . It was late and I was due to snuggle up in the doona. My finger missed the 1.

 

[Archie's Mum]

I can only find two births and baptisms that may or may not fit. The first of course is Mary Ann 1870 and the other is an Edith born 4 August 1868 baptised 22 Dec 1868 parents of both are James and Mary Ann Ashton and they were baptised at Kinver. Family Search. I'm wondering if the Elizabeth post #15 was actually the Edith 1868