My 3x Gr Grandmother, Elizabeth Wilshire who married William King

Correction, died 1892
Actually, there were TWO Thomas Harper Kings!!...One was William King's brother (1781-1864) and the other William King's son (1822-1892). Thomas Harper King I married Elizabeth Catherine Hall, a niece of the Sarah Hall who married Thomas King, and Thomas Harper King II, William's son, who was married 3 times!....I have quite a lot on all the Kings if anyone is interested!...
 
Thanks for that George, not meaning to be horrid but Camden, Calvert and King are really dirty words over here. After the debacle of the Third Fleet and their cutting costs which resulted in the deaths of one third of the transportees.
Sorry..:oops:
 
Actually, there were TWO Thomas Harper Kings!!...One was William King's brother (1781-1864) and the other William King's son (1822-1892). Thomas Harper King I married Elizabeth Catherine Hall, a niece of the Sarah Hall who married Thomas King, and Thomas Harper King II, William's son, who was married 3 times!....I have quite a lot on all the Kings if anyone is interested!...
Yes. The first was the son of the contractor the second the architect?
 
Thanks for that George, not meaning to be horrid but Camden, Calvert and King are really dirty words over here. After the debacle of the Third Fleet and their cutting costs which resulted in the deaths of one third of the transportees.
Sorry..:oops:
Yes, Sue.....I am very sorry to say that this is the same company.....I don't know about the "Third Fleet" but I do know that Thomas King had a fairly checkered past.....fortunately the descendants are rather different to these ancient ancestors!....:-)
 
That's good to hear. The contractors were paid an allowance for each convict embarked so they cared not if they were looked after or not or even fed. Later contractors were paid after convicts were landed in good condition.
 
It looks as if there are several Wilshin families around Pinner, as one of you said, so I think a more detailed look at them is necessary....I will try to take a look this afternoon!.....It is a pity that the father's name isn't given on the marriage cert., or that someone else hasn't figured it out on ancestry.com.....often a good way to find stuff out......but there is a lot of false info out there!!.....
Best to you all....
 
Good afternoon, all.....rather disappointed.....I am in NY today and went to the public library and searched the Times of London archives from 1780....sadly no real reference to Wilshins in Pinner.....apart from a parcel of land for sale in 1797 - "5 acres near Watford, adjacent to Mr. John Wilshin".....and a marriage in 1851 of a James Wilshin of Limehouse to Elizabeth Trivett, youngest daughter of J. Vivian of Aberdeen Place.....so I guess I am back to ringing the library next week!.....
Have a good weekend!
 
Sorry to bear bad news, but I think you have the wrong death there. It's not easy knowing where registration district boundaries are in a city like London, but I think these entries may be what you're after:

William King - Jun qtr 1861 Kensington Reg Dist, 1a 29 (age 76)
Elizabeth King - Sep qtr 1868 Kensington Reg Dist, 1a 41 (age 70)

They both died in the Paddington area, so the Kensington district seems at least as likely as St Pancras - see https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/kensington.html
Hi, Arthur,
Thanks again for your suggestions....
I received William King, from Paddington's death cert today - see attached - and interestingly it is definitely my William King!.....see attached.....

William King death cert 4-26-61.png
I wonder if anyone knows what Serous Apoplexy is! I know that apoplexy is some sort of "crazy" bleed!.....
I will let you know when I receive the other death certs....
I didn't get a chance to ring the Pinner library but will try to do so tomorrow....
Cheers!
George
 
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