My grandfather David Llewellyn Jones 1870-1937

[Archie's Mum]

From Wiki....
Prior to WW1 Canada had limited naval services with the majority of protection having been offered by the enforcement vessels of the Dept of Marine and Fisheries.
Mrs Huma, could the badge that David is wearing on his hat have a fish in the centre surrounded by oak leaves? It doesn't seem that way to me but I can't get a better look. So it may have.

 

[Joanne]

1901 census was Stevedoering, 1911 did'nt state occupation, 1921 machinist

 

[Joanne]

1917 he was in England heading back to Canada

 

[Joanne]

In all his travels back to England he is listed as Merchant Mariner. I cannot find a listing under Egland/Wales for this and can't access Canadian records. He may have done his apprenticeship ? in Canada

 

[Archie's Mum]

Merchant Mariner

But was he? When he married Rose at age 26 he was a surveyor's assistant. He certainly had a colourful employment history.
I also wondered if he was a volunteer coast guard officer (or equivalent) in that photo as that wouldn't show up as an occupation!

 

[Joanne]

Found something!
Can't access fully as have to be full member!

Admiralty Law and Practice in Canada
Court of investigation intothe collision between the steamships TARTAR and CHARMER on October 17th, 1907.

Before the Honourable Mr Justice Martin,Judge in Admirality for British Columbia ; and James Douglas Warren, master mariner, and David Llewellyn Jones,master mariner,assessors

 

[Joanne]

But was he?

I was beginning to wonder too

 

[Archie's Mum]

I was beginning to wonder too

 

[Archie's Mum]

Hi Joanne. Sent you the link to the newspaper article.
Also sent to Mrs Huma

 

[Ma-dotcom]

While I should be cooking:-
Family search:-
New York, New York Passen...ew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957 4485 - vol 9862-9863, May 6, 1929
David Llewellyn Jones Immigration 1929 to New York, New York, United States Male age-59 b.1870 in England ship-'Arabic' from Southampton 27 Apr. 1929 last permanent res' B.C.Victoria.
Retired Master Mariner-married
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24XK-B68
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[1910/11 A David Llewllyn Jones was res. at 231 King st. Hammersmith]
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1871 31 Goldness rd.?
David Jones 37-builder of Carmarthenshire, wife Eliza 32 Merionethshire
LLewellyn, 1 -Paddington. william 6, Lizzie 5, Owen 3.
RG10; Piece: 18; Folio: 34; Page: 60
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David snr probate 7 Nov.1888 widow Eliza-relict. of Kingsland rd, M'sex.
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Family Search:-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRY-7S1
death of Rosa mentions widow of Captain David LLewellyn Jones 1960 Esquimalt, B.C.

 

[Archie's Mum]

Seems this little duck was a bit hasty. One must not jump to conclusions. He was what he said he was. Sorry Mrs Huma.

 

[Ma-dotcom]

Found something!
Can't access fully as have to be full member!
Admiralty Law and Practice in Canada
Court of investigation intothe collision between the steamships TARTAR and CHARMER on October 17th, 1907.

Before the Honourable Mr Justice Martin,Judge in Admirality for British Columbia ; and James Douglas Warren, master mariner, and David Llewellyn Jones,master mariner,assessors

A little bit more:-
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/Admiralty_Law_and_Practice_in_Canada_1000224386/567

 

[Joanne]

A little bit more:-
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/Admiralty_Law_and_Practice_in_Canada_1000224386/567

That's what i was copying from,that's all it shows,BUT having David listed as an assessor should help proving he WAS a master mariner

 

[Joanne]

Seems this little duck was a bit hasty. One must not jump to conclusions. He was what he said he was. Sorry Mrs Huma.

Me too,but nothing showing up as Mariner all ship listings passenger!

 

[Ma-dotcom]

"The steam/sail passenger liner christened RMS TARTAR was launched by Aitken & Mansel Whiteinch in Glasgow, Scotland on January 25, 1883. Hull number 116, she was a square-rigged iron hull vessel of 4339 tons, 377 feet in length with a breadth of 47 feet. Owned and operated by the Union Steamship Company as the Royal Mail Steamship TARTAR, she was sold to the Canadian Pacific Steamship Company in 1897. On October 17, 1907 TARTAR went aground at English Bay, British Columbia after colliding with theSS CHARMERand was scrapped at Osaka, Japan in March of the following year."

http://www.westsea. com/17oceanliner.html

 

[Archie's Mum]

Well done night shift
Now back to looking after a sick hubby

 

[Ma-dotcom]

Hope Archie's Dad is well soon, Mrs Huma can now go over it all & decide if we've answered her query, if not quite the WW1 bit.

Unsure if the 2nd Mate's cert. for Merchant Trade 1889 is his or not. Just named as David Jones. Maybe rather young at 19ish.

 

[Joanne]

Well done night shift
Now back to looking after a sick hubby

Hope hubby recovers quick

 

[Archie's Mum]

He'll be fine with some lovin'. Bug in his lungs.
I hope we helped Mrs Huma too. At least a little.

 

[Mrs Huma]

Is this man a possibility?
David Llewellyn Jones age 26 born about 1871 London England, father David mother Eliza, occupation surveyors assistant.
Married Nanaimo BC to Rose Elizabeth Sage 1897.
Family Search

Yes, this is my grandfather. DOB: 2 Feb 1870, father: David Jones, mother: Eliza Griffiths, married Rosa Elizabeth Sage, 31 Dec 1897, Nanaimo BC Canada, died 24 Nov 1937, St Mary Islington Hospital, Islington, London England.