Oldest Schoolmaster 1928

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  1. mugwortismy cat

    mugwortismy cat Tenacious to the End!

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    it's not too bad ;) I could give it a go tomorrow :nailbiting: ... (I will hopefully do better than at my last attempt to transcribe a will :eek:)
     
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    Years ago we watched a movie about a hill in Wales that was just a bit to short to be a mountain so the townsfolk carted all this dirt to the top to get it to qualify as a mountain. Sorry I can't remember the name and if I could I wouldn't be able to spell it :)
     
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  3. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    This is my attempt at the will - there is a Probatum in Latin (I did not try that). Please correct as you see fit. I have had a go at place names, they could be wrong. - is a word I could not decipher

    In The Name of God Amen
    I Anna Childs wife of Baron William Childs of Kinlet in the county of Salop Knight being somewhat indisposed in body but thanks to God of sound and perfect mind and memory so make and ordain this my last will and testament in mannor and forme following and first and foremost my soul into the hands of Almighty God my Heavenly Father resulting in and through the - of Jesus Christ to bestow full pardon and forgiveness of all my sins and to be made partaker of those celestial - which he hath placed at his right hand for all such as love and fear his holy name who? by virtue of a power - to me by Indentures of Release bearing date the sixth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand six hundred and eighty five and of all other powers and right enabling me hereunto I do give appoint and dispose of all the Manours lands messuages tenements and - in the said indentures - and all my other Manor(superscript letter) messuages lands tenements and - to the reverend DoctorTyler dean of Hereford James organ of Hereford esqr Thomas Childs of Kinlet aforesaid esqr and Thomas Jobber of Aston in the county of Salop gent and their issue to the use of them and their issue in trust that by the rents - and - and by - mortage or sale of all or any of the said methods to - and pay the overall(?) summes of money herein after given and disposed of (that is to say)the summes of twenty pounds apiece to each and every of the said trustees. Item I give and appoint the sum of five hundred pound pounds to be put out to interest and - for the maintenance of a schoolmaster to teach and instruct the youth of this severall(?) parishes of Pilloth and Whitton in the County of Radnor and also to place out apprentice two youths of the said parishes yearly for ever. Item I give unto my dear mother a ring with two hands clasped to remember her that I did not forget my dear fathers dying commands and I define(?) her to accept of ten pound to buy her mourning. Item to my dear friend and husband the said Sn Baron William Childs one thousand pounds. Item to my dear noire Mrs - Morgan six hundred pounds. Item to my dear noite Mrs - Morgan seven hundred pounds. Item to my dear noire Mrs Ann organ seven hundred pounds. Item to my dear noire Mrs - Morgan two hundred pounds. Item to my dear noire Mrs Ann Jobber three hundred pounds. Item to my goddaughter Mrs Anna Childs twenty pounds. Item to my godson Mr William Lamb of Bidusy(?) Inn twenty pounds. Item to my godson Mr Evan Vaughan of the Dodo(?) Inn twenty pounds. Item to my godson {blank space} Vaughan of Rubbidge twenty pounds. Item to my godson Mr Robert Phillips of Boandly(?) Inn twenty pounds. Item to my friend Mrs Elizabeth Whitfield of London twenty pounds. Item to my cousin Mrs Elizabeth - five pounds. Item to Mrs Margaret Lewis of Llabaravon twenty shillings for a ring. Item to Miss Elizabeth Lewis her daughter twenty shillings ring. Item to Thomas Lewis of Nantguilt esqr for a ring one pound. Item to Mrs -Morgan the elder - - one pound. Item to Mr - Morgan of London twenty pounds. Item to Mrs Mary Morgan five pounds. Item to Mrs Grace Morgan five pounds. Item to my dear brother Mr Rowland Hughes ten pounds. Item to my dear noire Mrs Ann Gower ten pound. Item to Mr Richard Gunny of London ten pounds. Item to my old servant Mrs Martha Williams twenty pounds. Item to my servant Hugh Bath ten pounds. Item to y servant Edward Clark five pounds. Item to my servant Edward Wooler (if living with me at the time of my -) five pounds. Item to Ann Smith (if living with me at the time of my - ) five pounds. And it is my - that my said trustees shall convey what part of my said estate shall remain unsold (after my said legacies are paid and discharged) and to pay the residue of the money that shall be so raised after the payment of the said legacies to my dearest nephew - Thomas Morgan of Kinnersley (?) in the county of Hereford (?) Baronet. And Lastly I do hereby constitute and ordain my said dear friend the said - Baron William Childs full and whole executor of this my last will and testament to whom I doo give and dispose all my every goods and chattels whatsoever of what kind nature or quality the same - of and I doo hereby make null and void all former wills made by me and do publish and declare that this - writing contained in two sheets of paper written on one side only. Witnesses whose of I have to said sheets sett my hand and to this last affixed my seal the seventh day of May in the second year of the reign of our Sovereign Lady Queen Ann by the grace of God of England etc. Anno Domini one thousand seven hundred and three. Item I giva as a testimony of my thankfullness to my dr noire Mrs Anne Morgan for her care of me the sum of one hundred ginneys added to that sum above named. Item to my servant Elinor Calow five pounds whith said summes I have given after the writing of my said will before the sealing of it. A Childs signed sealed and - by the said testator as and for her last will and testament in the presence of Thomas Richardson Ann Richardson Ja: Hurst.
     
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  4. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Lovely MollyMay, what a clear & concise will & such a giving Lady.
     
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  5. mugwortismy cat

    mugwortismy cat Tenacious to the End!

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    this is my attempt at Dame Anna's Will (I couldn't wait after all despite what I said above), added to that of MollyMay who got in before me :rolleyes:, I also think she was a lovely lady and I enjoyed her Will very much-- here goes:

    In the Name of God Amen
    I Anna Child Wife of Sr. Lacon William Child of Kinlet
    in the County of Salope Knight being somewhat indisposed
    in Body but thanks be to God of sound and perfect mind ~
    and memory Do make and ordaine this my last Will and Tes-
    tament in manner and forme following And first I commend
    my Soul into the hands of Almighty God my Heavenly Father
    trusting in and through the Merits[?] of Jesus Christ to receive ~
    full pardon and forgiveness of all my Sinns and to be made
    partaker of those Celestiall Joyes whihc he hath placed at his
    right hand for all such as love and fear his holy name, ~
    whereas by virtue of a power reserved to me by Indenture of ~
    Release bearing Date the Sixth Day of June in the year of our
    Lord one Thousand Six hundred Eighty five and of all ~
    other poweres and right enabling me thereunto I do give
    appoint and Dispose of all the Manours Lands Messuages ~
    Tenements and Heridtaments in the Said Indenture mentioned
    and all other my Mano[urs] Messuages Lands Tenements and
    hereditaments unto the Reverend Doctor Tyler Dean of Hereford
    James Morgan of Hereford Esqr. Thomas Child of Kinlet ~
    aforesaid Esqr. and Thomas Jobber of Aston[?] in the Said County
    of Salope Gent. and their Heirs, to the use of them and their
    Heirs in Trust, that by the Rents Fines[?] and Profitts and
    by Leases[?] Mortgage or Sale of all or any of the Said Methods
    to raise and pay the severall Summes of money herein ~
    after given and Disposed of, (that is to say) the Summe of
    Twenty pounds a peice [sic] to each and every of the Said Trustees.
    Item I give and appoint the Summe of Five hundred pounds
    to be put out to Interest and Secured for the Maintenance
    of a Schoolmaster to teach and Instruct the youth of the
    Severall Parishes of Pilleth and Whitton in the County of
    Radnor, and also to place out Apprentice two Youths of the
    said Parishes yearly for Ever. Item I Doe give unto my Dear
    Mother a Ring with two hands clasp'd to remember her that
    I did not forget my Dear Fathers Dying Commands, and I ~
    Desire her to accept of Tenn[?] pounds to buy her Mourning ~
    Item to my Dearest Friend and Husband the said Sr. Lacon
    William Child one Thousand pounds, Item to my Dear Neice
    Mrs. Delarivior[?] Morgan Six hundred pounds, Item to my Dear
    Neice Mrs. Hester Morgan Seven hundred pounds. Item to my
    Dear Neice Mrs. Anne Morgan Seven hundred pounds. Item to
    my Dear Neice Mrs. Price Morgan Two hundred pounds. Item to
    my Dear Neice Mrs. Anne Jobber[?] Three hundred pounds. Item
    to my Goddaughter Mrs. Anna Child Twenty pounds. Item
    to my Godson Mr. William Lamb of Bidney Inn[?] Twenty ~
    pounds. Item to my Godson Mr. Evan Vaughan of the Veda[?]~
    Inn[?] Twenty pounds. Item unto my Godson Mr. Robert
    Phillips of Beandly Inn[?] Twenty pounds, Item to my Friend ~
    Mrs. Elizabeth Whitfield of London Twenty pounds, Item to my
    Cousin Mrs. Elizabeth Capell[?] Five pounds, Item to Mrs. Margaret
    Lewis[?] of Llanbaravan Twenty Shillings for a Ring. Item to
    Mrs. Elizabeth Lewis her Daughter Twemty Shillings Ring. Item to
    Thomas Lewis of Kantgmill[?] Esqr. for a Ring one pound. Item to
    Mrs. Grace Morgan the Elder [?] [?] one pound. Item to Mr. Lough[?]
    Morgan of London Twenty pounds Item to Mrs. Mary Morgan five
    pounds, Item to Mrs. Grace Morgan Five pounds. Item to my Dear
    Brother Mr. Rowland Hughes Tenn[?] pounds Item to my Dear
    Neice Mrs. Anne Gower Tenne Pounds Item to Mr. Richard Gummy[?]
    of London Tenn pounds Item to my Old Servant Mrs. Martha Williams
    Twenty pounds Item to my Servant Hugh Barg Tenn pounds ~
    Item to my Servant Edward Clark Five pounds Item to my ~
    Servant Edward Whooler (if living with me at the time of my ~
    Decease) Five pounds Item to Ann Smith (if living with me
    at my Decease) Five pounds And it is my Desire that my said
    Trustees Shall [??????] what part of my Said Estate that Shall
    remain unsold (after my Said Legacies are paid and Discharged)
    and to pay the residue of the Moneys that shall be so raised
    after the payment of the Said Legacies to my Dearest Nephew
    Sr. Thomas Morgan of Kinnesly[?] in the County of Hereford ~
    Baronet, And Lastly I Doe hereby Constitute and Ordaine
    my said Dear Friend the Said Sr. Lacon William Child full
    to whom I doe give and Dispose all and every my Goods and
    Chattells whatsoever of what kind nature or quality the Same[?]
    by me made, and Doe Publish and Declare this present Writing
    to be and containe my last Will and Testament In
    Wittness whereof I have to each Sheete Sett my hand, and
    to this last affixed my Seal the Seventh Day of May in the
    Second year of the Reign of Our Sovereign Lady Queen ~
    Ann by the Grace of God of England ?? Anno? Domini One
    Thousand Seven hundred and Three. ~ item I give as a
    Testimony of my thankfulness to my D[ea]r Neice Mrs. Ann Morgan
    for her Care of me one hundred Gineys[?] added to that Sume above
    named, Item to my Servant Elinor Dalow Five pounds which
    Said Summes I have given after the writing of my Said ~
    Will before the Sealing of itt. -- A: Child --- Signed ~
    Sealed Published and Declared by the Said Testater as and
    for her last Will and Testament in the presence of - Thomas
    Richardson, Ann Rich[ard]son, Ja: Hurst. --

    [edit] I notice some difference between me and MM -- I might have missed a couple of lines :oops:
     
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  6. Mealymoo

    Mealymoo A Busy Lizzy

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    You've both done an excellent job. 8(:-)
     
  7. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Sorry Muggy - I didn't see your offer until after I had posted, but it was a reasonable one to read and she was a very generous and kindly lady.
     
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    mugwortismy cat Tenacious to the End!

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    oh, don't apologise, no offence taken :D
     
  9. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    All good practise, I know where to come when I eventually lay my eyes on an old will. :)
     
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    Mealymoo A Busy Lizzy

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    There's a marriage which could be a possible for young David's parents
    10 July 1828, Cilgerran
    David Davies of Nevern to Maria Reece [sic]

    Yep, I know it says David Davies not Davis Davies, but it could be a misheard name.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    WOW you both did brilliantly. I would have faltered after
    IF I had got that far. Thank you both very much
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    I thought I had him in 1861 but not sure now. It was reported that he became headmaster of Talybont school in 1858, but can't seem to find him.
     
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    Sorry Moo but that was my fault. It should read David Davies and not Davis Davies. Sometimes I think I was born with more than my share of stupidity :D
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Where did you find this?
     
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    Mealymoo A Busy Lizzy

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    Well, S and D are next to each other on the keyboard so an easy mistake to make. By good fortune I was searching for Davi? Davi*

    I think the marriage looks promising, a pity there doesn't seem to be a baptism though. I did come across a possible sibling - Elizabeth (1829) Cilgerran
     
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    This is great Moo, thank you very much indeed {-(^^)-}
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    slippery digits more like Chimp. That's why I have so many edits after having -I thought- proof read my posts. My fingers move faster than my other bits.
     
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    Mealymoo A Busy Lizzy

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    1861, Talybont. RG9; Piece: 4213; Folio: 42; Page: 9
    David Rees DAVIS 25, national schoolmaster
    Maria Davis 66, housekeeper to son
    David Mason 5, nephew, Caernarvon
     
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    Mealymoo A Busy Lizzy

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    Maybe it doesn't say Caernarvon (appalling writing), but the county is Glamorganshire.
     
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    Yes Wendy, but sometimes my brain moves faster than my fingers at typing :)
    That's great Moo, Thank you again ;)
    Could it be Carmarthen maybe.
     

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