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  1. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    The 'C' in Cain is different though.
     
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    And there was me thinking you were a delicate little flower.....:D

    I'm sure it begins with an 'A'....
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Yep, both correct, been a busy girl today finding more folk in Kent- as you do, well as I do. Back to Thanet this time.:)
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    I will add my halfpennysworth. I think the last letter is 'e', looking at the last letter of Caroline. So we have Au ? e
    Not much use I know:D
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    On the contrary. Any suggestion could lead to an answer.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    We all have our delicate days :)
     
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    Sis Rootles out resources!

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    Does this version help? (It doesn't me!o_O)

    eliz webb A2 edit.jpg

     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Thanks but not really. We need to see the whole page but I cant get to NSW convict reports because I don't have a sub to A. If she was a Tasmanian convict that would be different. So a name would help us tremendously. It looks like that image is from the indent book anyway and not the conduct book. It will let us know what we need to know. Where convicted, place of birth, etc.
     
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    Cooking dinner, but if no one else has had a look when I'm done will see what I can find.:)
     
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    OK, am I missing something, don't know a surname to try and find it on A.
     
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    I'm confused over the "M,H,B & S" - is it definitely "Mother, Husband, Brother & Sister" ?
    If so, "mother" infers the subject in the document is the children, confirmed by the use of "brother & sister".
    However, "husband" (as opposed to "F" = father) throws that out.

    If the subject is the mother, "husband" makes sense but why not "S" = son and "D" = daughter ?
    Or am I totally wrong and this is a common (but strange) format ?
    Where does Elizabeth come into it ?
     
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    I think it is Ar as the 2nd letter is a match for the r in Greenwich. Sadly it really is scribbled. :(
     
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    sorry should have said her name is Elizabeth Webb nee Mahony/ey and she was transported on the Emma Eugenia on 25 Oct 1850 ..........to Van dieman's land. on records I have she is supposed to have been born in Ireland and that is down on some records but the convict record it says Deptford which was where they were living at the time.
    There are a number of incorrect trees on Ancestry as to her parents and she was a bit of a fibber so whether her fathers name on her marriage to William Webb in 1838 is John Mahoney a farmer I am not sure, she doesn't mention a father on the image I posted.........she remarried as they so often do in 1854 to another convict Edward Dyer......she left 4 children in Britain and had another 5 in Australia and was only 48 when she died!
    sorry Archie got carried away with her story:rolleyes:
     
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    will try to add it comes in 2 parts that's how they posted it eliz webb A2.jpg eliz Webb A.jpg
     
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    Looking at it again, and the rest of the page, there may be something in what you both say. There's also Ormeau near Belfast.
     
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    Ormeau looks like that could be the word we are after. She was convicted at Central Criminal Court so she should be found on Old Bailey online records. That's all good news now that she went to Tassie.
    That's me for the remainder of my day. Head in Tassie Records. :)
    I'm guessing though that you have all you need on her. Darn.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Is that the only record you received? There should be another with more details.
     
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    sorry sue what records do you mean I have quite a few but they don't give a lot of different details there is this one gives a bit more, have marriages (2) and childrens births elizabeth webb (4).jpg
     
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    If it is Ormeau on the record does that mean her mother may have been transported? there are a lot of Catherine Mahoney transportations must be after Elizabeths birth at least........I love my 3 x gran but she do keep my brain cells busy:confused:
    wonder how she knew where her mother was:eek:
     
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    That's the one. I found the original and tells me nothing really. If Deptford is her native place then Deptford is what they were told when she was transported. The word Ormeau looks almost about right but may not be. If her mother was transported then the record would state that but it says Ormeau???? She probably was in contact with her mother and family before conviction and the authorities have to know anyway in case something happened to her during her sentence. No idea why her husband wasn't mentioned though.
    Also her father isn't mentioned on the record probably because he was deceased. You seem to have all her life here so maybe we should look around elsewhere, although with a name of Mahoney I don't like our chances.:sceptical:
    Oops, husband William is mentioned. He is in Greenwich.
     
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