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  1. Bonzo Dog

    Bonzo Dog Still the Mad Scientist?

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    I'm with Archie's mum here, the "and" could very well be "ann".
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Looks to me like it sounded like Preston Chimp but on F S I found this.
    Annie Yapp
    Daughter
    England and Wales Census, 1901
    birth:1895
    ..[b. 24 Oct. 1895 Bapt. 1st .Nov. 1895] via Baptism image
    Bishops Castle, Salop
    residence:
    31 March 1901,
    Bishops Castle Urban, Shropshire, England
    father:Alfred Pressdee
    mother:Margaret Pressdee
    other:Mary Yapp, Alfred Willam Yapp, Albert George Pressdee
    any use?
    Looking at Baptism via FMP it could well be whatever you wish, a definite 'poor' attempt at a 't' but the 'o' is not as clear as it should be & the end letter has too much curlicue for his usual 'n'. Mayhap it was the end of the day & the baptsismal wine?
     
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  3. Chimp

    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Yes Wendy, that is my family ;)
     
  4. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    So who put Annie in the institution & was probably responsible for giving here date of birth??

    26th Oct, easily confused for 25th.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    According to FMP this morning- Annie doesn't exist anyway so problem solvered. [painted over]

    Oh yes-sorry there she is :
    ''Annie Preesdie"

    so much for name variations!
     
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  6. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Chimpy asked on another forum a loooong time ago and she was listed somewhere as Winnie apparently. :)
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    I think her parents put her in there.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Did I ? PM me where please :)
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Ah yes the 1901 census. I didn't bother searching any further for her at the time. It was pre 1911 census.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Strange that she isn't shown as an Lunatic on the 1911 census. Makes me wonder if the story is true, that they put her in the institution because she was pregnant. But why !!!, her mother did it 3 times prior to her marriage.

    Anne/Annie was baptised in the Bishop's Castle & Clun Methodist Circuit. I wonder if they placed her in the institution to save face within the congregation.

    If the Birth cert of Frances L Pressdee I sent for turns out to be her daughter (she being born 1916) then Annie would have been sent away prior to her birth. Which would mean that it will have been 100 years, therefore the closure rule would be passed and I could gain access to Annie's admittance record.

    I will have to wait for the certs to arrive :nailbiting:
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Oh piggin heck. I've just found her brothers service record. He was killed in WW1 on 21st April 1918. The war office at Shrewsbury wrote to his father asking for names of relatives so that they could send the plaque and scroll. His father wrote back on 24th December 1919 giving details of family members, one of whom was Annie aged 23 living at home.

    Can you divorce your family :mad:
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    I think I might have said something a tad stronger......:sceptical:
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    So did I Ann but Daft Bat don't half thump hard :nailbiting::D
     
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    Bonzo Dog Still the Mad Scientist?

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    Something like "Oh, flip and flop, two times" perhaps? :rolleyes:
     
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    Sis Rootles out resources!

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    Just love it!! You can get such feeling behind it when you say it!:D
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    I was thinking more of 'botheration' :rolleyes:

    Oops, slipping off piste a fraction......
     
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  17. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Which Bible did he swear that on? Perhaps she was home temporarily, or he lied?
    Bummocks?
     
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    Figgs Well-Known Member

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    Just to throw yet another spanner at you, Yapp is a rather common name in Jamaica. Some white, some black. I have some in the family via marriage and also worked with one up here. Now you will have to find a picture. :D
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    They didn't have enough money to have pictures taken Heather.
     
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    Figgs Well-Known Member

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    Well, if they lived in Jamaica before 1880, their colour was noted in a column. Not just colour, but whether they were born there or from Africa. Just throwing odd tidbits out here. "Creole" means born on the Island.

    I should throw some of these tidbits on that Forum. Have a few Slave Returns on here. (kinda like doing your income tax.....they got sent back to England).
     
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