Who wants to tackle this couple for me in Australia?

crazycatlady22 said:
There is a funeral notice in the Sydney Morning Herald dated 26 Oct 1891 for Mrs. Ann Trethowan. Children mentioned are Priscilla and Alice, William and Charles.

Lots of other family notices. I will keep looking.
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From Find My Past, I have a Cemetery Inscription [transcript] from Rockwood Cemetery, Sydney for an Ann Trethowan whose birth date 24 10 1836 and who died 24 October 1891. Her age was 55.

From the details of the marriage [see post #1] she was aged 16.

I have not found any likely births for these offspring from FMP. That doesn't mean they don't exist some where else.
 
o.k., I wasn't able to download the file but I found it at Pandora Australia's Web Archive. It is associated with the National Library of Australia. I went to the First Families Section and went through the alphabetical list of names.

I will send you a broken link. With a bit of luck you will find it.

http://pandora.nla.gov. au/tep/10421

I hope that you find it. I am a member of the national library, but I think that you should be able to access the file without being a member.

Let me know how you go. If you have problems I will attempt to print out the document and e-mail it to you.
 
The Artful Dodger said:
James Cock Trethowan was the 2nd of 9 children of James and Jane Trethowan of Constantine, Cornwall who were married 11 June 1833.
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This bloke had a brother named Henry Iconium Trethowan baptised in Constantine 2 June 1839.

He was with his parents, brother James Cock and several other siblings in the 1851 census.

It is possible that Henry came to Australia at about the same time - Dec. 1858 - when James Cock arrived, however there is only a transcription of the passenger list on FMP and there is no record of Henry's arrival, however events following proved that he did arrive sometime:
1] He married Susan Ann Richards in 1867 - registration #1445 - possibly in Creswick, Victoria.
2] He and Susan Ann had 5 children:
Albert Henry - 1868 - Creswick - #2050
Alfred James - 1869 - Crewsick - #21740
Lambert William - 1871 - Bung - #21807
Henrietta Emily - 1872 - Bung - #21822
Frederick Herbert - 1875 - Bung - #899
3] Susan Ann died 1875 - possibly in Bung - registration #825.

With 5 young children Henry immediately married [1875] Agnes Wilhmeiner[sic] Anderson - #3694. I have not found the births of any children nor have I found a death for Agnes, however in 1887 he married Bessie Sutcliffe - #2363.
I have absolutely no info whatsoever on these 2 ladies.

Henry Iconium can be found in 1909 Electoral Rolls in Echuca, Victoria and I believe he died in 1910 age 72 - source - Australia, Death Index 1787-1985.

Any help on him would be appreciated
 
The Artful Dodger said:
From Find My Past, I have a Cemetery Inscription [transcript] from Rockwood Cemetery, Sydney for an Ann Trethowan whose birth date 24 10 1836 and who died 24 October 1891. Her age was 55.

From the details of the marriage [see post #1] she was aged 16.

I have not found any likely births for these offspring from FMP. That doesn't mean they don't exist some where else.
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Thanks Terry. On the surface it doesn't look like my Ann but possibly the transcription or the details from the "outstation" of Mr. Tilley were incorrectly entered.

With the son James born 1876 [see post #4] and the Emma Elizabeth [see post 3] as well as the 4 children [see post #20] the only one I can feel comfortable with is the James from post #4 and after that item there is nothing I can find about him.

Can anyone find the others to prove/disprove the connection?
 
Hope I'm not bursting your bubble but hints on Geni have Emma Trethowan married to Benjamin Bowden the daughter of George Trethowan.
 
Archie's Mum said:
Hope I'm not bursting your bubble but hints on Geni have Emma Trethowan married to Benjamin Bowden the daughter of George Trethowan.
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No your not - I have 4 Emma Trethowan's. 3 of them were born in either 1845 or 1846. The 4th was born in 1877.
1] 1845 1st q. Emma - dau. of Francis and Jane nee Rashleigh - in Gwennap, Cornwall. She never married and died in Gwennap 1911 3rd q.
She is a 2nd cousin 4X removed.
2] 1846 4th q. Emma - dau. of George and Ann nee Symons - in Constantine, Cornwall. She married Benjamin Bowden 23 Jan. 1864. She and Benjamin left Plymouth 16 Mar. 1864 and arrived Adelaide20 Jun. 1864. Ship was "Eastern Empire". They stayed in South Australia. Benjamin died 24 May 1902 in Tiparra, Daly and Emma died 19 Jul. 1929 in Moonta. They are commemorated at the Moonta Cemetery. I am still working on their children.
She is a 2nd cousin 4X removed.
3] 1846 4th q. Emma - dau. of William and Ann nee Tippett - in Constantine. She was the last of 13 children. Several of her siblings emigrated to Australia and/or New Zealand. Her parents both died in 1871. I have not as yet been able to trace her after the 1861 census.
She is a 2nd cousin 4X removed.
4] 1877 4th q. Emma - dau. of John and Elizabeth nee Hawke - in Helston. She never married and died 4th q. 1937 in Falmouth R.D.
She is a 1st cousin 3x removed
 
These are a couple of possibilities as being children of Frederick Herbert. Worth keeping until we are sure: Source National Archives
James Mervyn Trethowan born 12 Dec 1912 Preston Victoria - Next of Kin Fred Trethowan
Edwin Arnold Arlington Threthowan born 7 Aug 1902 Berwick, Victoria - Next of Kin Fred Trethowan

I will keep looking
 
I found the births registered in Victoria for Henry Iconium Trethowan and Susan Ann Richards.
I am now looking for deaths:
Hy Konnan Trethowan died 1910 Father Jas, Mother Jane
William Saville Trethowan died 1904 Father Jas, Mother Ellen (Saville)
Eliza Ellen Trethowan died 1906 A/A
John Saville Trethowan died 1911 A/A
Samuel Trethowan died 1939 A/A
Edwin Trethowan died 1863 Father James Trethowan Mother Ellen Unknown
Elizabeth Trethowan died 1863 Father James Trethowan Mother Ellen (not stated)
Thomas Trethowan died 1900 Father Jas Trethowan Mother Ellen (Saville)
Albert Henry Trethowan died 1955 Father Henry Iconium, Mother Susan Ann (Richards)
John Saville Trethowan died 1962 Father Frederick Trethowan Mother Phobie
(Jukes)
Herbert Trethowan died 1965 A/A
Phoebe Trethowan died 1957 Father Vincent Jukes Mother Annie (Jenkins)
Ernest Saville Trethowan died 1959 Father Unknown Mother Florence (Dunstan)
Frederick Herbert Trethowan died 1875 Father Henry Iconiu Trethowan Mother Susan Ann (Richards)
Lambert William Trethowan died 1872 Father Henry Iconiu Trethowan Mother Susan Ann (Richards)

Sorry if I have gone off track. I have received constant interruptions and now I need to go.
Anyway all of the records can be found at the Victorian State Government Website.
 
Death Notice, The Western Mail, Perth, Western Australia 16 Sept 1911
Trethowan - on September 2 at Moss Rose, Mount Pleasant, Ballarat East, John Saville, the dearly beloved husband of the late Susan Trethowan and father of Mrs. G.P. Bray, Wesley Manse, Southern Cross.
 
crazycatlady22 said:
Death Notice, The Western Mail, Perth, Western Australia 16 Sept 1911
Trethowan - on September 2 at Moss Rose, Mount Pleasant, Ballarat East, John Saville, the dearly beloved husband of the late Susan Trethowan and father of Mrs. G.P. Bray, Wesley Manse, Southern Cross.
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Thank you for this. His wife Susan, who bore him 11 known children also died in 1911. I'll check out the Victorian State Government website that you mentioned in post #33.
 
Found a few more tid bits for Emma Elizabeth Trethowan and Herbert Richard Hams. Can't find a marriage anywhere but Herbert was the son of John Wickens Hams and Jane Ackland. He was born in South Australia in 1869 and died in Victoria in 1959. Some deaths found for Ethel May d/o Herbert and Emma 1912 Victoria, Walter George 1909 Victoria.
Births Edgar William 1899, father is given as Robert Richard and Emma. Arthur Stanley 1897 Herbert Jonathon 1895
John Wickens Hams drowned in 1934 in the Brisbane River. Queensland.
 
Emma Elizabeth Ham/s died in Fairfield Victoria on 8 October 1950 wife of Herbert Richard Hams and the names of children mentioned match those in above post.
A Herbert Hams lost his arm in a chaffcutter in 1905. Not sure if it is the same one though.
 
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