Peregrine
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Note: I could not find County Tipperary listed under the Munster Province.
My great great grandmother was Jane Bowles who married Joseph Winnett 13 Sep 1849 at Silvermines, Tipperary, Ireland. Joseph came from Killaloe in County Clare whereas Jane was born in Silvermines, County Tipperary. Jane and Joseph emigrated to Australia with their three children, Richard, Ellen and Elizabeth aboard the Horizon arriving in Melbourne on 9 Dec 1857. Two of Jane’s sisters travelled on the same ship: her married sister, Mrs Sarah Hardy, with her husband William and son Robert (by her first marriage) and her unmarried sister Mary Ann Bowles. Another sister, Mrs Miles also emigrated to Australia.
I am lucky to have a record of the family written by my grandfather Joe Pederick in 1956: it was written for his grandchildren and typed by my mother in quadruplicate. Joe explains that the explanation for the Winnett’s emigration is a curious one. “Grandma Winnett had a sister who was widowed very early in life. She later married her deceased husband’s brother. In so doing she violated a law of the church and created such a scandal that life became intolerable for them and they migrated to Australia. Apparently they liked the new country and soon she persuaded her three sisters, Mrs Miles, Mrs. Winnett and Miss Bowles to come out too.” As already detailed above, in fact all sisters, except Mrs Miles, travelled to Australia together on the Horizon.
I have a few issues that I am hoping someone on Top Dog may be able to help me with. On the death record for the son, Robert Hardy, his father’s name is given as Samuel Hardy, so I assumed that Sarah’s first husband was named Samuel. That is until today when someone on Ancestry kindly pointed out a marriage between a Sarah Bowles and Robert Hardy on 13 May 1845 at Ballynaclogh, Tipperary, Ireland. I have not found a death for Robert (or Samuel) but presumably he died about 1855 and Sarah subsequently married his brother, William, about 1856, before they came to Australia in 1857. I have not found the baptisms for any of the Hardy brothers and don’t know who their parents were. And finally I have not found with any certainty when Elizabeth, the fourth Bowles daughter, and her husband Edward Miles arrived in Australia. William Bowles appears to have arrived in Australia in 1820 aboard Alfred, and James in 1853 aboard Hanover. So perhaps it was the brothers who encouraged the sisters to come to Australia.
The parents of the Bowles siblings were James Bowles and Elizabeth Barber and in all I have found six of them: William, Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Sarah, James and Jane all born in County Tipperary, and most at Silvermines, in the 1820s. Mind I have not found a single baptism and they appear to be Protestant.
Any suggestions? Any help will be much appreciated. I think I hate dealing with Irish records as I never seem to get very far with them.
Cheers,
Esther
My great great grandmother was Jane Bowles who married Joseph Winnett 13 Sep 1849 at Silvermines, Tipperary, Ireland. Joseph came from Killaloe in County Clare whereas Jane was born in Silvermines, County Tipperary. Jane and Joseph emigrated to Australia with their three children, Richard, Ellen and Elizabeth aboard the Horizon arriving in Melbourne on 9 Dec 1857. Two of Jane’s sisters travelled on the same ship: her married sister, Mrs Sarah Hardy, with her husband William and son Robert (by her first marriage) and her unmarried sister Mary Ann Bowles. Another sister, Mrs Miles also emigrated to Australia.
I am lucky to have a record of the family written by my grandfather Joe Pederick in 1956: it was written for his grandchildren and typed by my mother in quadruplicate. Joe explains that the explanation for the Winnett’s emigration is a curious one. “Grandma Winnett had a sister who was widowed very early in life. She later married her deceased husband’s brother. In so doing she violated a law of the church and created such a scandal that life became intolerable for them and they migrated to Australia. Apparently they liked the new country and soon she persuaded her three sisters, Mrs Miles, Mrs. Winnett and Miss Bowles to come out too.” As already detailed above, in fact all sisters, except Mrs Miles, travelled to Australia together on the Horizon.
I have a few issues that I am hoping someone on Top Dog may be able to help me with. On the death record for the son, Robert Hardy, his father’s name is given as Samuel Hardy, so I assumed that Sarah’s first husband was named Samuel. That is until today when someone on Ancestry kindly pointed out a marriage between a Sarah Bowles and Robert Hardy on 13 May 1845 at Ballynaclogh, Tipperary, Ireland. I have not found a death for Robert (or Samuel) but presumably he died about 1855 and Sarah subsequently married his brother, William, about 1856, before they came to Australia in 1857. I have not found the baptisms for any of the Hardy brothers and don’t know who their parents were. And finally I have not found with any certainty when Elizabeth, the fourth Bowles daughter, and her husband Edward Miles arrived in Australia. William Bowles appears to have arrived in Australia in 1820 aboard Alfred, and James in 1853 aboard Hanover. So perhaps it was the brothers who encouraged the sisters to come to Australia.
The parents of the Bowles siblings were James Bowles and Elizabeth Barber and in all I have found six of them: William, Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Sarah, James and Jane all born in County Tipperary, and most at Silvermines, in the 1820s. Mind I have not found a single baptism and they appear to be Protestant.
Any suggestions? Any help will be much appreciated. I think I hate dealing with Irish records as I never seem to get very far with them.
Cheers,
Esther
Thanks for the map though.
