No Show on 1939 register

[Smokey]

Just found this: 1851 Census HO107/1703/214/4
Robert Epon (Capon) Guy, 23 b.1828 Ashbourne Derbyshire
Church Street, Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Police constable
Mary Guy 25 b.1826 Naples
Robert Guy 9 b. 1842 London Middlesex HO107/1703/214/5
William Guy 2 MOS b. 1851 London Middlesex HO107/1703/214/5

Not really relevant but, Who names their son after a doctored cockerel
Roger

 

[MollyMay]

Now I am getting confused (not difficult)
If the Amelia with William and John that @AnnB found is 'our' family, the boy's ages are totally wrong.
On th 1871 census the three of them are in the workhouse - Cornwallis Road, Upper Holloway RG10/308/89/16
Amelia age 28 widow, William 10, John 6 (on the original 'her children' is written for the boys), with something family by the names*
William cannot be 10 if he was born in the 1850's (either 53 or 57/8) his first child is born 1875c
I found a birth reg for John in 1861 making him 10 in 1871
Something is just not right
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[MollyMay]

Anc keeps giving me this hint to Amelia in 1861 - 1 Fox and Knox Court, St Sepulchre, City of London RG09/216/41/34
Amelia A Seal b1837 St James, Middlesex - mar - dressmaker
William Seal b1858 St Bartholomews - son

These dobs/ages make sense

 

[AnnB]

I think there are a whole lot of porkies being told in this family

 

[Smokey]

I think there are a whole lot of porkies being told in this family

Forget the red herrings! I think a whole can of worms is looming

 

[Smokey]

Have found a marriage for an Amelia Seal, B.1839,
Penshurst, St John the Baptist, Spouse,
Marriage date 05 May 1862
Father Thomas Seal,
Spouse David Wells, b. 1840,
First witness William Wells
Second witness Mary Ann Seal
Kent History & Library Centre P287/1/D/3
Register type Marriages

 

[MollyMay]

Have found a marriage for an Amelia Seal, B.1839,
Penshurst, St John the Baptist, Spouse,
Marriage date 05 May 1862
Father Thomas Seal,
Spouse David Wells, b. 1840,
First witness William Wells
Second witness Mary Ann Seal
Kent History & Library Centre P287/1/D/3
Register type Marriages

This Amelia can be found in Sevenoaks in 1861 (surname Seale) born Hever Kent and working as a house servant - RG09/488/48/22

 

[Smokey]

This Amelia can be found in Sevenoaks in 1861 (surname Seale) born Hever Kent and working as a house servant - RG09/488/48/22

Anc keeps giving me this hint to Amelia in 1861 - 1 Fox and Knox Court, St Sepulchre, City of London RG09/216/41/34
Amelia A Seal b1837 St James, Middlesex - mar - dressmaker
William Seal b1858 St Bartholomews - son

These dobs/ages make sense

I think this London one that you found is possibly the one to follow, still working through the options & trying to winnow out the chaff

 

[Smokey]

1881 census 6, Swan Yard, Islington

William King, Head, Married, 1853, City of London, Middlesex, England
Mary King, Wife, Married, 1853, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Amelia King, Daughter, 1875, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Mary King, Daughter, 1878, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Matilda King, Daughter, Single, 1881, Middlesex, England
Amelia Seal, Mother, Widow, 1838, City of London, Middlesex, England
John Seal, Brother, Single, 1862, City of London, Middlesex, England
Ernest Grey, Brother in law, Single, 1857, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

I also found this:

1891 Census 5, Broad Yard, Islington

William H King 1857
Mary C King 1853
Amelia A King 1876
Mary C King 1878
Matilda M King 1881
Esther E King 1887
Constance M King 1889
Lily B King 1891
Amelia A (Mother) King 1841

All the children have Mmn of Guy
If it is any help
Roger

Is there a condition called Genealogy Block? I have belatedly just realised that Williams mother Amelia is a Seal in 1881 and a King in 1891, with a distinct lack of recorded marriages between a King & Seal and equally between a King & Guy or variations of the names. As Molly says in post 22 "Something is just not right" also, am I right to assume these 2 families are the same family 10 yrs apart? or have I discovered a Genealogical Black Hole?