MacCallion (Collins) History prior to 1860 (Catholic)

Archie's Mum said:
Seems that, according to an old rootsweb enquiry that James McCallion was the son of Denis McCallion and Jane Cory. Their daughter Bridget is listed with the single females on the Orestes, she was 21. They had 2 other married daughters. So James not a sibling of your Patrick and we can forget them for a bit.:rolleyes:
Also the same enquiry states that Rachel Woods was Protestant and half the children as well ??? Were her parents William Woods and Margaret Jobb?
Just overloaded the brain again...sorry.:(
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Discovered Bridget, and just ruled her out too :P

Ahhh! You have hit the family brick wall. I have no "correct information" on Rachels parents. Possibly not Woods, but Woodwards (?)
 
Ferrfuzz said:
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That's the place.. 25-35km from Harden, Cootamundra, Temora, and 45 ish from Young on the other side..
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Sister used to live on Grenfell Road, Young. Just a bit out of town,
Used to love 'Young Maid" tomato relish. Can't get it any more. Nice cherries though. Soon be cherry season.
 
Archie's Mum said:
Sister used to live on Grenfell Road, Young. Just a bit out of town,
Used to love 'Young Maid" tomato relish. Can't get it any more. Nice cherries though. Soon be cherry season.
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LOVE Cherry season!! Know Grenfell Rd.. Not well, but know where it is.
 
This isn't really any help for linking one generation to the next, but might give some idea of other variations of spelling. It is a list of flax growers in County Tyrone in 1796:
http://www.
failteromhat.com/flax/tyrone.php

There is a Luke M'Callin in Donacavey, I see. There are numerous other names on this list which might be variations on this one - some with the M' and some without. Anything that could sound the same might be the same: so perhaps M'Gillian and maybe even M'Elhone? Not to mention others not on this list, such as M'Killian, M'Allen etc.

It's a nightmare searching databases for names like these, because they might be spelled M' or Mc or Mac and if they've been transcribed with a space between that and the rest of the name, then you might have to search just for the end part of the name. :(

Try doing site searches for any/all of the variants you can think of on the excellent County Tyrone website here:

http://www.
cotyroneireland.com

There for example they have an index to the tithe applotment book for Donacavey, 1827, which has people called McCallen and McCallin in various townlands in the civil parish of Donacavey. They also have very useful maps of townlands:

http://www.
cotyroneireland.com/townlands/townlands.html
 
Huncamunca said:
This isn't really any help for linking one generation to the next, but might give some idea of other variations of spelling. It is a list of flax growers in County Tyrone in 1796:
http://www.
failteromhat.com/flax/tyrone.php

There is a Luke M'Callin in Donacavey, I see. There are numerous other names on this list which might be variations on this one - some with the M' and some without. Anything that could sound the same might be the same: so perhaps M'Gillian and maybe even M'Elhone? Not to mention others not on this list, such as M'Killian, M'Allen etc.

It's a nightmare searching databases for names like these, because they might be spelled M' or Mc or Mac and if they've been transcribed with a space between that and the rest of the name, then you might have to search just for the end part of the name. :(

Try doing site searches for any/all of the variants you can think of on the excellent County Tyrone website here:

http://www.
cotyroneireland.com

There for example they have an index to the tithe applotment book for Donacavey, 1827, which has people called McCallen and McCallin in various townlands in the civil parish of Donacavey. They also have very useful maps of townlands:

http://www.
cotyroneireland.com/townlands/townlands.html
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Thank you. I will go trolling through ;)
 
There is a small problem with the age of Rachel. Post #1 has her born in 1792 but in 1841 when she arrived here the shipping record has her age as 37 making her dob c1804.
 
Hi Ferrfuzz. My Patrick Collins b1898 in co.tyrone. Ive to find his birth layer today at proni. While I'm there Il check out what I can for you. I must forewarn u tho, records are scarce that old in Ireland as most were lost in fires in 1922 n census destroyed by order of government for confidentially reasons. Some records that did survive, proni will have in Belfast for n.ireland. Il let u know how I get on. X
 
I had no joy with my own searches today n never got round to looking into yrs but I'm back at proni Friday. My husband says the surname mccallion is very common here x x
 
Ferrfuzz, fintona is under 3 districts lol Donacavey has only C of I - marriages 1800-1950, baptism 1800-61 n 1864-1936. Earlier records lost in fire n after dates given, at the church. Kilskeer is same as Donacavey. Now Drumragh I'm doing too for my gr.gran rc baptism, but silly me didn't write dates. I'm back up Monday. I did do a name search on their catalogues n there were no hits x
 
Ferrfuzz - Drumragh, baptism, marriage n burials RC 1846 n 1853-81. After 1881 they r held in local custody.
C of I records - at proni baptism 1863-1960, marriage 1905-79, burial 1864-1934. Before dates in fire, after dates in local custody.
 
Looking thru baptisms I didn't come across ne maccallions YET. Il b back up in 2weeks time coz son off for half term. N if I come across ne maccallions n woods/woodward Il write en down. As I'm looking thru both RC n C of I for myself.
 
Hey there so sorry I've been missing for a while.. Life has been a tad insane.
Puffling through things in the last few months I have found a little more on Owen McCallion, but haven't ever found anything on Patrick, son of Patrick McCallion, Donacavey.
I know all the Donacavey papers and records I need are one of the batches totally destroyed in the fire.
Now the weather is cooling down I will get all my discoveries updated ;)
 
she04 said:
Ferrfuzz - Drumragh, baptism, marriage n burials RC 1846 n 1853-81. After 1881 they r held in local custody.
C of I records - at proni baptism 1863-1960, marriage 1905-79, burial 1864-1934. Before dates in fire, after dates in local custody.
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The dates are before 1840 are the ones I need for Patricks parents and then circa 1854 for Owen.
Birth certificates etc for Patrick and his children are all between 1790 and 1838.
 
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On the path of a skeleton... Owen Mc (Mac) Callion. Born 1814/15.
Due to there being no surviving records, it is unknown if he was the eldest son of Patrick (McCallion) Collins-1793-1883, or whether he was the youngest brother of.
His wife Anne and their children migrated 1855/56 after the 'apparent death' of Owen in 1854/55.

Somewhere in my digging knowing if he did in fact die at that time there should be a record of his death.. The only death record for an Owen McCallion (and all variations bar Collins) born circa 1814; is 1885 in Inishowen.
Now what I have also found (and I have no idea where I saved it) is an incarceration of Owen McCallion b: 1815, for Absconding from a Workhouse, Circa 1854.
I can find nothing more until birth of a daughter Bridget in May 1866, to Bridget Faron. (Farron, Faren, Farrin, Farran, Faren-MacCallion) Father Owen McCallion B:1815.
There is no record of Bridget ever marrying or of Owen marrying. They are listed as spouses and parents of 8 children, (5 of the children I have confirmed to be children of Owen McCallion B:1815)
Bridget 10 May 1866,
John 23 Dec 1867,
Philip 29 Jan 1870,
Owen 4 July 1871,
Catherine 28 Mar 1873,
Mary 13 Nov 1874,
Charles 6 Nov 1876,
Margaret 25 Dec 1878
I have found the death records for most of the kids.. But that was mainly of curiosity at this stage.
So here's where my thinking is at.(this is my thinking I need some help as to how I could confirm my theory and possibly fill in the gaps)
*The illusive Owen McCallion husband of Anne Gorman, got himself in the ****.. Whether he lost all income and respect, or Anne left him, or he left Anne ???? The brain boggles.. But somehow he ended up committed to a Workhouse (we know in theory people were free to leave, but that wasn't what happened in reality)
Owen attempted to leave the Workhouse and was subsequently sentenced to jail term. Upon his incarceration his younger brother/nephew brings Anne and the children out to Australia to be cared for by family.
Owen was released from prison, (when????) And became involved with Bridget, possibly got her pregnant (?) and went on to have a second family.

Where do I go from here??
 
Aha, now I will look into local workhouses in co.tyrone. I know nothing of workhouses here so will find out what I can for you. Bear with me for a bit lol, may take me a while to learn where n how to look for you. This will be interesting. Also court assizes would have been held in Omagh. There should be a record and a newspaper report about it. Il look into that also. X x
 
Ferrfuzz said:
We can only assume the years are correct based on information from headstones in Corrimal Cemetery NSW Australia.
Looking for a family link to
Patrick MacCallion (?) Born 1793, Co-Tyrone (?) Ireland. Died 3/9/1883 Wollongong, NSW, Australia as Patrick Collins.
Rachel (Rachael) MacCallion (nee Woods) Born 1792. Ireland. Died 5/7/1878 Wollongong, NSW Australia as Rachael Collins.
They were married in Fintona, Parish of Donacavey, Co-Tyrone in 1813 (?)
Migrated to Australia on the "Orestes" departing Ireland in December 1840 with 8 or 9 of their children.
All information prior to this we have so far, is that it is believed Patricks parents were Patrick and Roseanne MacCallion.
Several alternative surnames have been raised to no avail, these include - MacCailin, Campbell, MacCathmhaoil, MacCallan, MacAilin.
These names most likely mean that they were of Scottish decent as galloglasses or 'Norse Soldiers' who arrived in Ireland to fight for Donal Oge O'Donnell in 1258.
Any ideas, suggestions, directions to trace or find stories of anyone from the are of Fintona? Or suggestions of other names?
Anything prior to Patrick and Rachel boarding the "Orestes" would be wonderful.
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By coincidence I live a couple of suburbs away from where Patrick died in 1883. Also I am descended from Ellen McCosker/McCusker nee McAllina and they were from Tyrone - Dromore - Fintona - Lettergesh - Omagh areas - and some of us are wondering if McAllina could be yet another spelling for McCallion MacCallion - McCallen, McAllen, Collins. Ellen and her husband Bernard emigrated to Australia in 1837 on the Adam Lodge
 
Hi, my name is Brydee Collins. I'm hoping and praying that this is still relevant. I'm trying to expand my personal Family tree. My grandfather is Raymond Keith Collins 1921-2017. His father is George Frank Collins 1881-1976. His grandfather was Patrick Collins 1837-1918. I have a family tree from my Aunty which was written by my great grandmother that states my 3x great grandfather as being Owen Collins. Now I'm hook and want to know more.

I have an ancestry account and have a lot of gaps. But what I know is that George was a beloved dairy farmer. Born in Bega, NSW. Eventually hopping on a ship and travelled to Byron Bay, NSW. Then settled and made a homestead at Green Pidgeon, Kyogle NSW.

This is where my grandfather Keith was born before moving to Federal, NSW. He like his father was a keen farmer and fisherman. His first wife passed away and he married my grandmother Elizabeth Dorris Morrow 'Betty' and had my father. In the later part of their lives when their children were out on their own they settled in Alstonville, NSW. I live with my parents, my partner and our two boys on the same property Keith and Betty built a house and granny flat on.
 
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