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Lipmans of Aldgate

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  1. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Leah's headstone is viewable on cemeteryscribes.com
    She is buried at Plashet Jewish Cemetery
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Leibman/Liebman/Lipman Myer/Meyer/Mier/Moses
    Born 1785 Germany, Prussia
    Wife...Jeanette
    Died GRO June 1859 as LIEBMAN Mier
    1841 Census..cook 134 Houndsditch
    1851 Census...cook 26 Bury Street St Katherine Cree
    Not sure if Moses fits in anywhere but here he is anyway.
    Gives an insight into the surname origins.
     
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  3. Adam McGregor

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    I believe so, that does look like Lewis and Mary.
     
  4. Adam McGregor

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    Thanks for all this information! As the only foreign branch on my tree it is interesting to investigate. I also had problems with my 3x great-grandmother, Rosetta Franks. She married Morris Lipman in 1844. Not sure where, and no idea as to her parents.
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Rosetta Franks married Morris Lipman December qtr 1844
    London City Volume 2 page 195

    I do not see the entry on either FMP or Ancestry, so it could be you will need to buy the marriage cert from the GRO to find out who her father was.
     
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    Holy cow!!!! I didn't realize this thread was there when I answered on the other one!!! Amazing research, folks....which clarifies and adds to a couple of my suppositions on the origin of the name...I am sure that it was more likely Lipschitz or similar! Also on the occupations. Milliners, tailors, shoe repair, etc.

    Now I wonder if my London Lipman's weren't distantly related cuz I couldn't find any on the LDS site that fit in Scotland birth wise.

    WOW again!! :eek: :D
     
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    I had a look in the record books and although the marriage is there Rosetta doesn't have a fathers name although address given was 2 Love Court and there is an Esther Franks at 1 Love court with a father Benjamin Franks.
    Morris's father is down as Eliezer
    in 1810 a Benjamin Franks married a Pricilla Abrahams a possible
     
  9. Adam McGregor

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    Very interesting. So Morris wasn't the son of Lewis despite living with him in 1841?
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    That's the thing with the 1841 census - relationships are not shown. :( If nephews or nieces - or even complete strangers/servants who happen to have the same surname - are in the house at the time, it just throws another spanner in the works... :headbang:
     
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    Looking on synogoguescribes.com at others called Eliezer, a number of them, when you look at their hebrew forename, have it as Lipman Eliezer. There has been mention of a Lipman Lipman somewhere.

    A number of trees on Ancestry have Lewis Eliezer Lipman as the dad
     
  12. Adam McGregor

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    Damn. I might just have to buy Morris' 1844 marriage certificate then.
     
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